scorch- wrote:I'm trying to interpret that photograph but all I can think is that if the garand has 2.0 recoil RL then you should definitely be proned.
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Hi Gary!gwolf_ wrote:Yea. The gun has an incredible amount of recoil. When I was actually shooting it I was prone. When you shoot it and feel the power in it you wonder how anyone could still have 10 health after getting hit with that thing.scorch- wrote: I'm trying to interpret that photograph but all I can think is that if the garand has 2.0 recoil RL then you should definitely be proned.
The whole experience was very cool. One of my classmates was an Iraq war veteran and invited a bunch of us to come out shooting. At the time we were in school @ WSU which is in bum **** SE Washington about 5 hours from Seattle. We drove about 45 minutes east into the most rural town you could possibly imagine, Helmer, Idaho. There was one store in the town. It was a gas station, cafe and convenience store all in one. Before going out to the make-shift shooting range, we decided to stop in and grab a bite to eat.
Now to give you an idea of our group, it consisted of 2 international student from India, 1 Sri Lankan American, 2 urbanites from Seattle and our Iraq war veteran who was originally from Oklahoma (he fit right in).
We walk in to order some sandwiches and everyone just stares at us. We then try to pay with a credit card and they looked at it like it was something from outer space. Fortunately we had enough cash to cover everything. We then proceeded down a long dirt road to a giant pit that was littered with empty shell casings (I guess the University of Idaho and Washington State gun clubs go there to shoot). We got some basic training from our veteran friend and then pumped the side of the hill with lead for the next hour or two shooting at targets (this was the weekend after April 15[tax day] and being that we were masters of accounting students we decided to shoot at tax forms). Then a forest ranger showed up to see what all the racket was, we thought we were in trouble. Actually he just wanted to see what we were shooting. After briefly admiring the guns he drove off.
'Merica!
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Do you know what the rest of the world sees when they see the "99%" in the United States? The 1%. THEY are the 99%. AMERICANS ARE THE 1%. If I have to hear one more American complain that this is a "third world country" while they're sitting their ass on a computer with electricity...They have absolutely ZERO clue.
Oh, 99% you got a degree in history or liberal arts? You didn't find a job? No shit. Would you hire a history major and pay them $50,000 if you were running a business? What value do they bring? Oh, you poured $100,000+ into a hole for your unemployable undergraduate degree? Well, why don't you go to grad school and pour $50,000 more....to still be unemployable. That sounds intelligent. Then, you can riot and complain. Because you know, if there's one thing a hiring manager likes, it's that.
Sure things are tough, but life if tough. Compete. Get better. Why the hell do people who are middle of the road or border line unemployable think they are owed something? If you were planning your wedding or picking a school for your daughter, you would pick the best. Not 45th best wedding planner. So why should a company hire you if you're not the best. COMPETE. The NFL doesn't let any asshole in just because he wants to play football. You have to prove you deserve to be there.
Do you want to know why I think I'll always have good job prospects? The United States is full of people without work ethic. They don't have a clue what real dedication is. None. They have zero professionalism, class, or communication skills.
Oh, 99% you got a degree in history or liberal arts? You didn't find a job? No shit. Would you hire a history major and pay them $50,000 if you were running a business? What value do they bring? Oh, you poured $100,000+ into a hole for your unemployable undergraduate degree? Well, why don't you go to grad school and pour $50,000 more....to still be unemployable. That sounds intelligent. Then, you can riot and complain. Because you know, if there's one thing a hiring manager likes, it's that.
Sure things are tough, but life if tough. Compete. Get better. Why the hell do people who are middle of the road or border line unemployable think they are owed something? If you were planning your wedding or picking a school for your daughter, you would pick the best. Not 45th best wedding planner. So why should a company hire you if you're not the best. COMPETE. The NFL doesn't let any asshole in just because he wants to play football. You have to prove you deserve to be there.
Do you want to know why I think I'll always have good job prospects? The United States is full of people without work ethic. They don't have a clue what real dedication is. None. They have zero professionalism, class, or communication skills.
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Oh, and all the people against "helping Wall Street expense of the common man" need to get a clue. Strengthening those companies balance sheets will eventually lead to hiring. IE when the 500 largest companies are strong, it starts up the engine. Boosting the stock market will boost wealth of pension funds and normal people, which will lead to baby boomers finally being able to retire (or die)...which will be a tremendous boost in hiring for the waiting young people.
And if there's one person to blame for this current cluster other than Greenspan, it's the American Public. You rode the bubble of all bubbles. Building houses for no reason, which lead to more jobs making wood, installing windows, you name it. Then that's extra money to eat out. To use tourism. To do anything. You lived like irrational kings just like the roaring 20's, and it bit you in the ass. Once the housing market went, POOF, it was all an illusion.
Do you know why the taxpayers had to bail the banks out? Because the TAXPAYERS brought down our financial system by living beyond their means for DECADES. The bill came due on their party. The most long lasting and irrational party in the history of mankind.
The banks and time are the one and only thing that can get us out of this mess. You won't like the alternative.
Oh, and corporations are (DOUBLE) taxed. At higher rates than most of the world. If I have to hear one more moron say that "I pay more taxes than GE LULZ", my head might explode.
And if there's one person to blame for this current cluster other than Greenspan, it's the American Public. You rode the bubble of all bubbles. Building houses for no reason, which lead to more jobs making wood, installing windows, you name it. Then that's extra money to eat out. To use tourism. To do anything. You lived like irrational kings just like the roaring 20's, and it bit you in the ass. Once the housing market went, POOF, it was all an illusion.
Do you know why the taxpayers had to bail the banks out? Because the TAXPAYERS brought down our financial system by living beyond their means for DECADES. The bill came due on their party. The most long lasting and irrational party in the history of mankind.
The banks and time are the one and only thing that can get us out of this mess. You won't like the alternative.
We often hear the phrase, "Saved by WWII" when talking about the Great Depression and the 1930s. Back then, the world was in disarray, based on economic constraints rooted in WWI reparations, the expansion and bursting of the stock market, and worldwide abject poverty.
Saved by a war that cost 60 million lives? What was the option? The starvation of the poorest had begun in Eastern Europe, and revolution was in the air in the United States. No one can contemplate the extent of the disaster that is coming now, since we don't conceptualize WWII as being caused by economics.
Perhaps it's time to promote this explanation, so it would be clearer just what kind of a precipice we are now looking over.
Oh, and corporations are (DOUBLE) taxed. At higher rates than most of the world. If I have to hear one more moron say that "I pay more taxes than GE LULZ", my head might explode.
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Compensation is partially based on revenue. American corporations practically dominate the global 500. Of course our CEO's will have higher compensation levels. They generate higher revenue and are MUCH larger companies.CharlieGiteau wrote:Since we're talking numbers...
That graph is useless for any purpose other than to generate false mindless anger.
Speaking of mindless anger. The 99% think Congress should lose their benefits and good pay. People in Congress are lawyers. Laywers who are basically champions of their feild.
You think they should have the same compensation packages as joe blow? Why????
To any idiot who thinks someone elses job is easy and not what it's worth, then they need to go take it. If it's so easy, they should be able to swoop into it. Oh, they're too busy working at Wal-mart complaining that someone who managed to COMPETE well enough to get to Congress is overpaid.
Best post in the thread. It really helps to show what a joke the "99%" is.mogers wrote:
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Please, don't feed the troll.
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I really hope you're not referring to me as a troll. Every word of what I said is true.alex kirk wrote:Please, don't feed the troll.
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I hope you had fun typing out that diatribe which is relevant only to a specific sub-group within the movement, but not the movement as a whole.BrentMusburger wrote:I really hope you're not referring to me as a troll. Every word of what I said is true.
I am for this movement. I'm not demanding a handout. But what I am demanding is the abrupt end of corporate/federal corruption, ending the monetary incentives that the private industry provides to public officials to act/vote a certain way, ending the government's favoritism to those companies who will right them the biggest check, that those who allegedly broke the law which contributed to the economic meltdown be investigated, etc.
I guess I'm an idiot. And I hate freedom.
I think I posted this earlier, but this is the most relevant video I've seen that embodies this movement:
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Let's not pretend this is limited to the big bad corporations. Mkay?ending the government's favoritism to those companies who will right them the biggest check
The jig is almost up.Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.
What about the millions and millions of independent decisions to live well beyond your means for decades? Living beyond your means eventually FORCES you to live under them. Blaming a few people in government or banking for this catastrophy that has happened (and in my opinion is about to get MUCH worse) is bordering on absurd.that those who allegedly broke the law which contributed to the economic meltdown be investigated
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Did I pretend such?BrentMusburger wrote:Let's not pretend this is limited to the big bad corporations. Mkay?ending the government's favoritism to those companies who will right them the biggest check
I didn't realize I don't assign any blame to irresponsible individuals.Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
What about the millions and millions of independent decisions to live well beyond your means for decades? Living beyond your means eventually FORCES you to live under them. Blaming a few people in government or banking for this catastrophy that has happened (and in my opinion is about to get MUCH worse) is bordering on absurd.