main/invite

[Rob]

Yeah I can't say I agree with TPG putting my newly formed team in invite right away. I'd rather be put in main for at least preseason to see how we are. If we look solid, then go ahead and move us up. But we've literally never even played together before, scrim or otherwise.

It's pretty weak how every time a team wins main they shit their pants at having to play thunder or something so they break up, reform, publicly announce how bad they suck, then stomp main all over again.

When I was with MVPz, we lost lower finals, got moved up to invite, and took our licks. Not sure if we even won 2 games ... Don't remember exact record. Next season we improved to almost breaking even. I just don't know why teams like hh or whatever they call themselves now don't want to improve. Is it really fun to just repeatedly stomp the Stamper twins' teams over and over?

[nunz]

one division prevents all of this! or atleast splitting the divisions up.

[Rob]

That doesn't work because the lowest teams in the league will drop out from getting destroyed on a weekly basis. Happened before when the main/lower teams were in one division. Teams like BAW, 475th, KS, etc. can only look forward to a couple weeks out of a season where they'll actually compete for a win. Every other week is a blowout.

[stealthlol]

Yeah I can't say I agree with TPG putting my newly formed team in invite right away. I'd rather be put in main for at least preseason to see how we are. If we look solid, then go ahead and move us up. But we've literally never even played together before, scrim or otherwise.

Why not reverse that? Play upper preseason and see how you fair against two upper teams.

[Cheech]

Yeah I can't say I agree with TPG putting my newly formed team in invite right away. I'd rather be put in main for at least preseason to see how we are. If we look solid, then go ahead and move us up. But we've literally never even played together before, scrim or otherwise.

Why not reverse that? Play upper preseason and see how you fair against two upper teams.

Also works in the sense that we have 10 teams in upper and 10 in main so no one has a bye.

[Rob]

Because at the time of the team's creation we were placed in invite just to even the division out and make things easier for scheduling, even though main was uneven as well. And from what I've seen, the admins are usually more amenable to making move-ups than move-downs. It's a moot point now though. Once the admins get the divisions even, nobody wants to rock the boat any more.

[stealthlol]

Understandable. But, negating the fact you guys haven't played together, looking at the players on the roster I see at least 3 people who played last season together. Plus Will Ward. Hell, if you have any chance of getting moved down, it will be Will Ward.

[Airnick15]

Understandable. But, negating the fact you guys haven't played together, looking at the players on the roster I see at least 3 people who played last season together. Plus Will Ward. Hell, if you have any chance of getting moved down, it will be Will Ward.

Rydn, Beast, and I will show our team what it takes to win.

[Jb_]

buncha nerds. Just play the damn game and quit bitching.

[BrentMusburger]

By your rationale every kid that plays high school football should be in the NFL.

Or how do people manage to read and write all their lives without writing a bestselling novel?

Not really. You're comparing thriving competitive enviroment where improvement at the highest level continues...to dod where neither of those statements are true.

It's more like if 95% of the top writers in the world moved to another profession---and the 5% left continue to throw out half ass work in their spare time (treading water at best, or more likely regressing in ability)-----yet, the new writers still can't move up or match them at this horrendously reduced level of competition.

is thunder the best team every season? realistically yes, we lost a couple seasons back, and still lose 1 or 2 matches every season. but this just shows how the community has changed over the years. even back in 08/09, there were teams that wanted to beat us simply because we are a challenge to play against. but for some reason now everybody would rather show up and stomp people in lower divisions, just so they don't have to lose against us.

Don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back.

In regards to the bolded, you're accusing them of exactly what you're doing. You'd rather show up with your "stacked" team and stomp people at lower skill levels then you, just so you don't have to lose. If you're so against this mentality, why don't you split up to challenge youself and create parity?

I have no sympathy for the ridiculous threats of, "if you want to kill a team, move us up." Then quit **** playing, and you won't be missed.

If your team dies, then a new one with the remaining players who still want to play will form. Shogun, Airnick, stile, badnewspanda, Pat, etc. are all semi-free agents and would make a team in the event you guys die.

If you don't want to play, canteen/court/taylub, feel free not to. But if you think the threat of 2-3 players giving up DoD is more important than running a fair, decent league, then you're mistaken. Again, you won't be missed. You just aren't important enough to sway the right decision of moving you up (no one is).

You belong in invite. Sorry you won't win invite, sorry you'll lose some matches by a lot. Boo hoo.

Where's this cold, competitive Kirk coming from? I'd expect that you would want every team to be able to feel that they're special! They should never have to worry about actually improving their skillset to remain competitive. They should be able to do what makes them have fun while feeling warm and fuzzy on the inside~

Why not reverse that? Play upper preseason and see how you fair against two upper teams.

I'd rather be put in main for at least preseason to see how we are. If we look solid, then go ahead and move us up.

*team decides it doesn't want to play in upper*
*team loses preseason matches on purpose*
*team requests to stay in main, and wipes clear those irrelevent losses*
*team does well in main vs easier competition*

Sandbagging. It's been around for a while.

Teams used to WANT to be moved up--and were excited to get the opportunity. Part of the fun of dod was proving you belonged. Once this "push" is gone for the community as a whole it's gone for good. It's unfixable by FORCING people to play where they don't want to--what ever their reason is.