Another 1 Down?

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Re: Another 1 Down?

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CraftyDus wrote:
Manner wrote:
Anything special with those clips? All I see is random footage.
Watch in HD, In the first one hes shooting directly at a crouched player through 2 mountain tunnel corners.

In the second what appears at first to be random minor adjustments to his camped position on bridge looking trip, is actually him reacting tit-for-cheating-tat toward the player carefully making his way out of "L"

The third has him squeezing a few rounds directly at a player through bridge-house corner and the mound between spawn and trip. This is coming off of his spawn ramp.

Watch the hltv 3-side posted to get a better idea of what he's hearing in those three spots (or rather, not hearing)
1st clip: Nothing really special from my view, after he missed the shot on the guy who ran from ladder to what I also had think to sewer/mountain steps, I had also prefire around the corner 1/3 of the times. When he wait after he prefired around the corner, around 99% wait after he have shoot and no one is there, because many people are going to see if his still there(rws in this case).

2nd clip : Nothing really special here, I don't know if this is a beginning of the round/after capout or if he just wait for his partner to spawn, so someone of them can move up and have someone behind to hold the one if he gets killed. Many people are sitting there at bridge, because it's gives a good luck if someone is at trip/ladder.

3rd clip : I don't know if this happend because it's no damn sound (GG), but if you look at the minimap you see a nade coming to the one and you will hear it. So he know it will come some to the one from trip(if the guy don't go to ladder). Also, around the corner where he shot at, there's many people who stand/crouch there, because it gives you a good view when someone come out from spawn/coming from double door.
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Upload clips WITH SOUND ffs, it's to say without any sound .(+ vent recordings had also been good, but I also I dont see a point of recording it unless it's a tpg match)

It's like a watching a review/movie of something and it's no sound
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Re: Another 1 Down?

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moosh wrote:
ward wrote:Why is this kid still playing in the GSR server?
Because its a cheater safe haven, according to reddog.
You're severely misinformed if you think we condone cheating. We don't ban people because we can like Jakimo advocated earlier. (<3 jakiiks) From what I understand, I am fairly new, we ban people based on evidence on our servers. We are currently reviewing demos of rws "cheating" on our server. If our AC determines he's cheating, he will be banned. I know he was tpg banned. Does that mean he is cheating on our server? Probably. We are in the process of making that decision ourselves.

Note - This is my opinion. Not GSR's official take, so if you want to hate on this post, hate on me; not GSR.
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Re: Another 1 Down?

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Jesus as soon as that vid started i was like god nicks voice is so distinguishable.
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Re: Another 1 Down?

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Sears wrote:
mogers wrote:Dear Eric,

Have not seen the Forever Alone video hit the Archives yet.

Please advise.
[foreveralone][/foreveralone]
Ouch
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Re: Another 1 Down?

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carpenter wrote:
moosh wrote:
ward wrote:Why is this kid still playing in the GSR server?
Because its a cheater safe haven, according to reddog.
You're severely misinformed if you think we condone cheating. We don't ban people because we can like Jakimo advocated earlier. (<3 jakiiks) From what I understand, I am fairly new, we ban people based on evidence on our servers. We are currently reviewing demos of rws "cheating" on our server. If our AC determines he's cheating, he will be banned. I know he was tpg banned. Does that mean he is cheating on our server? Probably. We are in the process of making that decision ourselves.

Note - This is my opinion. Not GSR's official take, so if you want to hate on this post, hate on me; not GSR.
Well it would certainly piss off a lot of frequent players there if your sophisticated anti cheat team failed to ban a kid who's clearly a cheating idiot. I mean....its been over a week...shouldn't take that long.
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Re: Another 1 Down?

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siXten wrote: 1st clip: Nothing really special from my view, after he missed the shot on the guy who ran from ladder to what I also had think to sewer/mountain steps, I had also prefire around the corner 1/3 of the times. When he wait after he prefired around the corner, around 99% wait after he have shoot and no one is there, because many people are going to see if his still there(rws in this case).
[spoiler]He didn't simply prefire the corner like you do 1/3 of the time.
He dead on shoots at the guy (who btw is silently crouched and changing the direction hes facing to bait him into this bullshit because HE KNOWS HE"S CHEATING) in sewer through 2 corners of the mountain;
Fails for obvious reasons to hit him with any of it.
After this he THEN prefires him on the corner (like you do 1/3 of the time).[/spoiler]
siXten wrote: 2nd clip : Nothing really special here, I don't know if this is a beginning of the round/after capout or if he just wait for his partner to spawn, so someone of them can move up and have someone behind to hold the one if he gets killed. Many people are sitting there at bridge, because it's gives a good luck if someone is at trip/ladder.
[spoiler]It's not THAT he sits on bridge and catches the guy coming from "L" through trip.
The thing about this particular instance is his tit-for-cheating-tat minor adjustments to his crouch-camp-position whenever the player he's seeing through mountain moves. That shit is funny.[/spoiler]
siXten wrote: 3rd clip : I don't know if this happend because it's no damn sound (GG), but if you look at the minimap you see a nade coming to the one and you will hear it. So he know it will come some to the one from trip(if the guy don't go to ladder). Also, around the corner where he shot at, there's many people who stand/crouch there, because it gives you a good view when someone come out from spawn/coming from double door.
[spoiler]He sees the guy esp and attempts to wall him through the building AND the mountain (which is ridiculous) mistakenly believing he's behind only the building in water area. Because he's a cheating idiot.[/spoiler]
siXten wrote: Upload clips WITH SOUND ffs, it's to say without any sound .(+ vent recordings had also been good, but I also I dont see a point of recording it unless it's a tpg match)
It's like a watching a review/movie of something and it's no sound
I hate to repeat myself yet again, but like I said a couple times before, this isn't a proper cheater movie, I was simply dicking around with wireframe in hlae which you can download here http://archives.nineteeneleven.org/

I didn't record this hltv, 3-Sided Quarter did. Which is why I like playing 12 mans on his server.

I can understand the subtle nuance is difficult to perceive.

Please stop captaining 12 mans. Ability to no-scope ≠ Ability to pick decent team.

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Re: Another 1 Down?

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CraftyDus wrote:Ability to no-scope ≠ Ability to pick decent team.
Wait... playing bad isn't an indication that you understand the game?
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Re: Another 1 Down?

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I have to agree with nik that the videos really don't show much in such short clips, BUT, as you have explained Crafty, there's more to the story than just simply watching the clips. Its one thing to scrim/12 man believing that everyone is playing honest, but its another when you have a feeling and are baiting the suspected cheater into revealing it(I did it to the Dr_House_CZ guy I just got perm banned on GSR). Think of the video they made of that one idiot on harrington, when the opposing team members were doing only hand signals prone, and getting shot through walls on long. I think he was french-canadian?

I talked to rws lastnight when he messaged me, saying to him I'm no AC, that the clips were condemning, but don't honestly know if he's cheating or not. He asked me to watch his demos, but I refused, and I told him there are far more experienced people that review them. Just watching those few clips, I'm not sold either way, but I do trust the TPG-AC to the extent that I feel they made a correct call. Watching kills, nades on minimaps, thinking of vent calls, watching recoil/xhair control...way too much goes into determining cheating for me to make a clear distinction when people are trying very hard to hide it.
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Re: Another 1 Down?

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The fact that so many people aren't banned from TPG seems to indicate that they are very cautious with their bans. My guess is that you have to be pretty blatant for the TPG-AC to be convinced you're cheating.
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Re: Another 1 Down?

Post by CharlieGiteau »

scorch- wrote:The fact that so many people aren't banned from TPG seems to indicate that they are very cautious with their bans. My guess is that you have to be pretty blatant for the TPG-AC to be convinced you're cheating.
I agree with you there.
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