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Another One Down

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Handle: FloYd
Team: European Unknown Soldiers
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:1358854
Start Date: Apr 15 2013
End Date: Apr 15 2014
Rule Violation: 7.4
Reason: Cheating in a TPG Match
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Post by rippeR »

demo/hltv/video please :-\
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Re: Another One Down

Post by nik »

back in your ED admin days you couldn't even ban blatant noobs ripper.

What will you do with these demo's? This guy is good, and if he cheated it probably won't be blatant.
Out of your league. Will be a pain to watch anyway.
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We want evidence, and more information plz.
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nhoj wrote:Handle: FloYd
Team: European Unknown Soldiers
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:1358854
Start Date: Apr 15 2013
End Date: Apr 15 2014
Rule Violation: 7.4
Reason: Cheating in a TPG Match
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Post by motive »

Idiot has been blatantly cheating in every scrim lately, not surprised to find out he's too stupid to toggle off in matches. pzl8
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Re: Another One Down

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Bibop, the admins are not required to give evidence, nor will they I think. The AC admins will have reviewed the demo and they have decided he is cheating, end of discussion.

The below is something that I made on my own, and has no affiliation with TPG (I am not an AC admin), just my own thoughts.

My opinion: He plays very strange in general. Sometimes he will rush blindly when he cannot possibly know it is clear. If you turn around, he will rush you. Other times, you think, OK I will sit and wait for him and make no sound. Then he will walk towards you, stop randomly and prime a nade, and you just know the nade will hit you in the face if you stay still.

Some of the clips can be put down to sound, or teamspeak, or luck. But there is too much tracing through walls, too many weird decisions, and too much footage from ONE SINGLE MATCH. You could watch somebody like jaunty and get hardly any dodgy footage, but i managed to find 8 mins with this guy. There are many times when he looks directly at people through walls though the person is miles away, so I think most likely he's using an ESP. Perhaps toggling, because sometimes he ignores some people. Other sprees, he has 100% knowledge of everybody's positions, and he perfectly prepares his aim on them.

Anyway, video:

http://stin.pp.fi/an1/


accompanying text with some explanation (also found in rar):


[spoiler]0:03 - perfectly follows the heavy to the window

0:09 - watches heavy through wall

0:12 - very strange - aims perfectly at two models that are way across the map. it happens fast, but fairly obvious.
very unlikely to be a coiincidence.
- preaims ding. waits for heavy to come out. preaims ding again.

0:40 - some nice preaiming on evil

0:59 - nicely aimed on flowers

1:07 - preaiming to ticket, then falls for a cheater peak (may have seen model?)

1:20 - fairly absurd & impossible shot on ding who made no noise.

1:30 - aims at stin through wall. knows it is safe to pop out and hit him

1:40 - more blatant tracing, then aims perfectly at evil in the window (again)

2:05 - shooting ding through door, may have been luck

2:18 - looks perfectly at wallu, then someone else to the right.

2:25 - preaims somebody he thinks is in lower apartments, turns out to be someone miles away. oops

2:40 - watching ding through the wall, relucatant to push forward as he knows alex is there.

2:57 - looks directly at stin through wall, primes a nade. knows stin is there, decides to shoot at spawn instead.
looks towards stin again, who has made no noise. keeps shooting at spawn, then insanely fast reaction shot to stin

3:20 - fairly blatant tracing of ding

3:30 - more blatant tracing and nading

3:45 - some pretty weird recoil control, and tracing. very quickly flicks to lower apartments.
oops - that guy is across the other side of the map.

3:55 - preaims an1mal nicely, then seems fairly confident that its safe to push hole. perfect nade.
more bullshit on ding at long.

4:30 - traces evil all the way through apartments to the window...oops! he's through the wall.
traces him through the next wall.

4:50 - perfect trace on an1mal

4:55 - more tracing on ding, perfectly expects wallu's position.

5:15 - tracing shenanigans, falls back all the way to lower apartments, insane preaim on wallu.

5:40 - anticipates an1 at long, primes a nade. randomly rushes carelessly through about
3 corners at the perfect moment.

6:10 - watches evil walk up the stairs then preaims him. neglects to jump out of double windows as he's seen ding crouching there.
proceeds to do the most blatant preaims on wallu and an1, neither of whom made much sound

6:50 - spends a while shooting the wrong guy through door (thats somebody at crossroads, model to the right is the guy close to door)

7:15 - a lot of tracing on wallu. could be down to sound.

7:32 - great nade, 3 man take down, perfectly preaim to ding.

7:55 - looks right at ding through wall at underpass. is perfectly ready when ding walks out.

8:10 - more nading and tracing through wall

8:15 - "et cest le gg" - indeed![/spoiler]
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Re: Another One Down

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nhoj wrote:Handle: FloYd
Team: European Unknown Soldiers
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:1358854
Start Date: Apr 15 2013
End Date: Apr 15 2014
Rule Violation: 7.4
Reason: Cheating in a TPG Match
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Re: Another One Down

Post by nik »

An1maL wrote:Bibop, the admins are not required to give evidence, nor will they I think. The AC admins will have reviewed the demo and they have decided he is cheating, end of discussion.

The below is something that I made on my own, and has no affiliation with TPG (I am not an AC admin), just my own thoughts.





My opinion: He plays very strange in general. Sometimes he will rush blindly when he cannot possibly know it is clear. If you turn around, he will rush you. Other times, you think, OK I will sit and wait for him and make no sound. Then he will walk towards you, stop randomly and prime a nade, and you just know the nade will hit you in the face if you stay still.

Some of the clips can be put down to sound, or teamspeak, or luck. But there is too much tracing through walls, too many weird decisions, and too much footage from ONE SINGLE MATCH. You could watch somebody like jaunty and get hardly any dodgy footage, but i managed to find 8 mins with this guy. There are many times when he looks directly at people through walls though the person is miles away, so I think most likely he's using an ESP. Perhaps toggling, because sometimes he ignores some people. Other sprees, he has 100% knowledge of everybody's positions, and he perfectly prepares his aim on them.

Anyway, video:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5fw4f6bbgh79c ... rar?v=0mcn

edit: oh dear, that link is dead. somebody who has it please host it somewhere

accompanying text with some explanation (also found in rar):


[spoiler]0:03 - perfectly follows the heavy to the window

0:09 - watches heavy through wall

0:12 - very strange - aims perfectly at two models that are way across the map. it happens fast, but fairly obvious.
very unlikely to be a coiincidence.
- preaims ding. waits for heavy to come out. preaims ding again.

0:40 - some nice preaiming on evil

0:59 - nicely aimed on flowers

1:07 - preaiming to ticket, then falls for a cheater peak (may have seen model?)

1:20 - fairly absurd & impossible shot on ding who made no noise.

1:30 - aims at stin through wall. knows it is safe to pop out and hit him

1:40 - more blatant tracing, then aims perfectly at evil in the window (again)

2:05 - shooting ding through door, may have been luck

2:18 - looks perfectly at wallu, then someone else to the right.

2:25 - preaims somebody he thinks is in lower apartments, turns out to be someone miles away. oops

2:40 - watching ding through the wall, relucatant to push forward as he knows alex is there.

2:57 - looks directly at stin through wall, primes a nade. knows stin is there, decides to shoot at spawn instead.
looks towards stin again, who has made no noise. keeps shooting at spawn, then insanely fast reaction shot to stin

3:20 - fairly blatant tracing of ding

3:30 - more blatant tracing and nading

3:45 - some pretty weird recoil control, and tracing. very quickly flicks to lower apartments.
oops - that guy is across the other side of the map.

3:55 - preaims an1mal nicely, then seems fairly confident that its safe to push hole. perfect nade.
more bullshit on ding at long.

4:30 - traces evil all the way through apartments to the window...oops! he's through the wall.
traces him through the next wall.

4:50 - perfect trace on an1mal

4:55 - more tracing on ding, perfectly expects wallu's position.

5:15 - tracing shenanigans, falls back all the way to lower apartments, insane preaim on wallu.

5:40 - anticipates an1 at long, primes a nade. randomly rushes carelessly through about
3 corners at the perfect moment.

6:10 - watches evil walk up the stairs then preaims him. neglects to jump out of double windows as he's seen ding crouching there.
proceeds to do the most blatant preaims on wallu and an1, neither of whom made much sound

6:50 - spends a while shooting the wrong guy through door (thats somebody at crossroads, model to the right is the guy close to door)

7:15 - a lot of tracing on wallu. could be down to sound.

7:32 - great nade, 3 man take down, perfectly preaim to ding.

7:55 - looks right at ding through wall at underpass. is perfectly ready when ding walks out.

8:10 - more nading and tracing through wall

8:15 - "et cest le gg" - indeed![/spoiler]

Too much to read. But initial text sounds familiar. I was sure he cheated in the group stage of alive vs eus 2 seasons ago. Didn't dispute because alive won. In the rematch he wasnt that weird, anyway not more dodgy than ryanemo who was playing for alive. Been in doubt on whether he really cheated or not since.
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