explain pls?

[Cage]

Too bad fifflaren didn't perform well in the finals, could have been a closer game.

Hahaha yeah he played like shit, didn't even break ten kills over three maps.. Glad I didn't bet any skins on that match.

[james-]

[youtube]Gm9XNyERe6Q[/youtube]

that's priceless.

[Theworst]

Aimtek didn't cheat.

[mike]

The current system seems to work, anyway. Has there ever actually been a genuinely good & respected player banned, where most top players would say: that ban was a mistake? Most of the time it's pretty clear cut.

Me.

[WindiaN]

Hello friends! I wish to partake in this discussion.

Ward: Yes, we (Shockwave) lost to Nhn/xds in a Cal-I match I think the season they got promoted. It was also the season when you were too poor to pay for internet and our starting roster included some combination of Jizzake and Aero. Pretty sure nobody cheated on nhn, Prowack was super quick but I always just felt that he was good. Didn't help that we played horribly and didn't practice.

Also, I was on -Nt- before lol/infamy/shockwave and our french players were good. Xormm did cheat when -Nt- was going downhill, but I'm positive he didn't cheat when they beat 101st (and I wasn't on the team yet then, joined the next season). The were hilarious, awesome people, and generally well liked by the community (with some exceptions, but you could say that about anybody). We also used to have Hn from Sk.fr play in our matches and he was unreal. Better than almost every player even though he consistently had 200+ ping. I vaguely remember some team demanded that we a midwest server even though they were predominantly east coast just so that Hn's ping would be worse and he then proceeded to absolutely destroy them. IIRC it was mostly with nades since his ping was too bad to compete. I remember giving him a nade near spawn (it was on Zafod) because he ran out and he nailed it for 3 kills.

nik: As mentioned to Wardian, Sk.fr was indeed very good. When I was on -Nt-, we had Kiki who was French but that team was carried by Hn and he was actually Belgian. If you called him French, he got pissed off. Worth mentioning that they did have a cheater named Iron but I don't think it ever was well known that he cheated. We tried to start one of those super teams CS style with a Euro division and a US one IIRC, I think the tag was something like eSports.-nt- Windian [ktp]. Anyway Sk.fr had their own team as the Euro division and we scrimmed them on Anzio. I msged Hn after the match because I was 100% positive Iron cheated, never been so sure of anybody ever (well except Ward, but he was on my team and I supported him just because it was so fun disagreeing with ackpth). I literally proned all the way up the Allied spawn house side on bridge and he walled me the instant I got to the top. It was blatant. Hn was similarly adamant that Iron was just super good and he had also seen him play on lan (tm). Plus Hn was the best player in the world so what did I know. I think he got caught a few weeks later. He was actually decent on lan, but I apparently he was nervous about getting cut from the top Euro team or something so he cheated online to keep his spot.

nuBeas Umm, nope. Now I'm not saying you actually cheated (if that's why you got banned, I don't even remember), I wasn't sure at the time but I didn't care. I also may not have been a "top" player when you got banned, but I definitely played with them. Don't think anybody would say it was a mistake though. That spider video was priceless.

WindiaN out.

PS: Add me on Hearthstone: WindiaN#1166 I actually don't suck that badly so I play a decent amount when I have the time. Can't say the same about DoD...

[squatta_leader]

Hello friends! I wish to partake in this discussion.

Ward: Yes, we (Shockwave) lost to Nhn/xds in a Cal-I match I think the season they got promoted. It was also the season when you were too poor to pay for internet and our starting roster included some combination of Jizzake and Aero. Pretty sure nobody cheated on nhn, Prowack was super quick but I always just felt that he was good. Didn't help that we played horribly and didn't practice.

Also, I was on -Nt- before lol/infamy/shockwave and our french players were good. Xormm did cheated when -Nt- was going downhill, but I'm positive he didn't cheat when they beat 101st (and I wasn't on the team yet then, joined the next season). The were **** hilarious, awesome people, and generally well liked by the community (with some exceptions, but you could say that about anybody). Watch the KBC 2 "enhanced" version, that shit still cracks me up. Might not be as funny if you don't know the people though... We also used to have Hn from Sk.fr play in our matches and he was unreal. Better than almost every player even though he consistently had 200+ ping. I vaguely remember some team demanded that we a midwest server even though they were predominantly east coast just so that Hn's ping would be worse and he then absolutely destroyed them.

nik: As mentioned to Wardian, Sk.fr was indeed very good. When I was on -Nt-, we had Kiki was French but that team was carried by Hn and he was actually Belgian. If you called him French, he got pissed off. Worth mentioning that they did have a cheater named Iron but I don't think it ever was well known. We tried to start one of those super teams CS style with a Euro division and a US one IIRC, I think the tag was something like eSports.-nt- Windian [ktp]. Anyway Sk.fr had their own team as the Euro division and we scrimmed them on Anzio. I msged Hn after the match because I was 100% positive Iron cheated, never been so sure of anybody ever (well except Ward, but he was on my team and I supported him just because it was so fun disagreeing with ackpth). I literally proned all the way up the Allied spawn house side on bridge and he walled me the instant I got to the top. It was **** blatant. Hn was similarly adamant that Iron was just super good and he had also seen him play on lan (tm). Plus Hn was the best player in the world so wtf did I know. I think he got caught a few weeks later. He was actually decent on lan, but I apparently he was nervous about getting cut from the top Euro team or something so he cheated online to keep his spot.

nuBeas Umm, nope. Now I'm not saying you actually cheated (if that's why you got banned, I don't even remember), I wasn't sure at the time but I didn't care. I also may not have been a "top" player when you got banned, but I definitely played with them. Don't think anybody would say it was a mistake though. That spider video was priceless. If anybody finds it, send it to me! "**** ugs junior lu, ****' hate that spic."

WindiaN out.

PS: Add me on Hearthstone: WindiaN#1166 I actually don't suck that badly so I play a decent amount when I have the time. Can't say the same about DoD...

SS of unibrow or not real.

[nik]

Hello friends! I wish to partake in this discussion.

Ward: Yes, we (Shockwave) lost to Nhn/xds in a Cal-I match I think the season they got promoted. It was also the season when you were too poor to pay for internet and our starting roster included some combination of Jizzake and Aero. Pretty sure nobody cheated on nhn, Prowack was super quick but I always just felt that he was good. Didn't help that we played horribly and didn't practice.

Also, I was on -Nt- before lol/infamy/shockwave and our french players were good. Xormm did cheated when -Nt- was going downhill, but I'm positive he didn't cheat when they beat 101st (and I wasn't on the team yet then, joined the next season). The were **** hilarious, awesome people, and generally well liked by the community (with some exceptions, but you could say that about anybody). Watch the KBC 2 "enhanced" version, that shit still cracks me up. Might not be as funny if you don't know the people though... We also used to have Hn from Sk.fr play in our matches and he was unreal. Better than almost every player even though he consistently had 200+ ping. I vaguely remember some team demanded that we a midwest server even though they were predominantly east coast just so that Hn's ping would be worse and he then absolutely destroyed them.

nik: As mentioned to Wardian, Sk.fr was indeed very good. When I was on -Nt-, we had Kiki was French but that team was carried by Hn and he was actually Belgian. If you called him French, he got pissed off. Worth mentioning that they did have a cheater named Iron but I don't think it ever was well known. We tried to start one of those super teams CS style with a Euro division and a US one IIRC, I think the tag was something like eSports.-nt- Windian [ktp]. Anyway Sk.fr had their own team as the Euro division and we scrimmed them on Anzio. I msged Hn after the match because I was 100% positive Iron cheated, never been so sure of anybody ever (well except Ward, but he was on my team and I supported him just because it was so fun disagreeing with ackpth). I literally proned all the way up the Allied spawn house side on bridge and he walled me the instant I got to the top. It was **** blatant. Hn was similarly adamant that Iron was just super good and he had also seen him play on lan (tm). Plus Hn was the best player in the world so wtf did I know. I think he got caught a few weeks later. He was actually decent on lan, but I apparently he was nervous about getting cut from the top Euro team or something so he cheated online to keep his spot.

nuBeas Umm, nope. Now I'm not saying you actually cheated (if that's why you got banned, I don't even remember), I wasn't sure at the time but I didn't care. I also may not have been a "top" player when you got banned, but I definitely played with them. Don't think anybody would say it was a mistake though. That spider video was priceless. If anybody finds it, send it to me! "**** ugs junior lu, ****' hate that spic."

WindiaN out.

PS: Add me on Hearthstone: WindiaN#1166 I actually don't suck that badly so I play a decent amount when I have the time. Can't say the same about DoD...

Never knew iron cheated. Really liked his fragmovie :/ .
About sk-fr. I had doubts about if I should mention that their best player was not from france, but a french speaking Belgium. But I figured that it would be pointless , they seem to call everybody frenchie over here. Swizz, canadians, etc .

[ward]

Sup Jai. I'm not saying that they are not capable of being good, just that there are a disproportionate amount of them that have been proven to cheat. NHN was decent, but was never a top tier team in invite, more like middle of the pack. I'm guessing you had juni0r / aero / jizzake playing that match, haha.

[ohhhhbeeee]

Where's the link to the demos? Did I miss it?

[An1maL]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/1qibpv