Beef or Whey

[Jstampz]

Well alright, I've been tested numerous times and have stayed consistent with 3% body fat since I was tested in August. I have gained weight since, so hopefully it's higher than that.

I always thought my percentage would be around 10-15. But numbers don't lie.


During my junior wrestling season, I was tested and I sat around 9%, but ever since the summer after that season, as far as I know, I've been at 3%. Now, I could be totally wrong and not given an accurate tests, but regardless it's low. Whatever it is, it's lower than I want it to be

[Beas]

I've used Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey for the past two years. I use to waste a ridiculous amount of money attempting to find the best possible protein. I realized as you said, real food is the most important. I grabbed a bag of Optimum Nutrition Pro Gainer because it taste pretty damn good and has 60 grams of protein per serving.

My supplement list:

Optimum Nutrition Fish Oil, Rich Pianas's 5% "All Day You May" BCAAs, Carbo Gain, Beast Creature Creatine, and Whey Protein. Every now and then I'll add a pre-workout/ Cellucor Alpha Aminos.

I've gotten into the habit of eating 7-8 egg whites with oatmeal each morning, then 2-3 hours later drinking a shake. I'm still attempting to bulk, so I'm upping my carbs and proteins.

yeah pro gainer will work great as well. I have used it before. I've tested different BCAAs to sip on throughout the day and for me as long as I was getting my meals every 2 1/2 to 3 hours, I didn't really need to sip on bcaa supplements. For road trips it is a great supplement if you are going to be driving a good distance and wont be able to get a meal in.

I'm guessing you are trying to do as clean of a bulk as possible?

What do your meals for bulking consist of? how many carbs and grams of protein daily? are you a hard gainer?

I have 3% body fat and a metabolism that's ridiculously fast. It's hard to gain weight, so I constantly mix up workouts/workout routines and try and get anywhere from 5-8 meals a day.

Daily goals are usually somewhere around 200 grams of protein, and anywhere from 200-500 grams of carbs. Or as much as possible. I get busy with work and school so drinking the BCAAs helps a ton. I always make sure to eat right before bed too.

I've been doing some feeder workouts the past two nights, I'm going to see if it works. Rich Piana followers swear by it.


I was recently given a vial of Sustanon 250, but I'm not going to steer into the unnatural path until I hit some sort of plateau.

My First immediate question is directed towards the sus 250...

How old are you and how long have you consistently been training? And what is your goal you are working towards? Just trying to bulk up and stay in shape, and enjoy working out? Or are you trying to do a show/competition in the future?

like the others said 3% doesn't seem accurate because of the health factors that would cause, but either way it sounds like you are one of those that naturally has that dry low body fat look and can eat anything in sight. What are your protein sources and what are your carb sources? What do your meals typically consist of? **** What will you eat today for example? ****

yeah ive done my own version of 'feeder workouts' for years to go alongside my core workout regiment. What does your workout plan for a week look like?

[Jstampz]

yeah pro gainer will work great as well. I have used it before. I've tested different BCAAs to sip on throughout the day and for me as long as I was getting my meals every 2 1/2 to 3 hours, I didn't really need to sip on bcaa supplements. For road trips it is a great supplement if you are going to be driving a good distance and wont be able to get a meal in.

I'm guessing you are trying to do as clean of a bulk as possible?

What do your meals for bulking consist of? how many carbs and grams of protein daily? are you a hard gainer?

I have 3% body fat and a metabolism that's ridiculously fast. It's hard to gain weight, so I constantly mix up workouts/workout routines and try and get anywhere from 5-8 meals a day.

Daily goals are usually somewhere around 200 grams of protein, and anywhere from 200-500 grams of carbs. Or as much as possible. I get busy with work and school so drinking the BCAAs helps a ton. I always make sure to eat right before bed too.

I've been doing some feeder workouts the past two nights, I'm going to see if it works. Rich Piana followers swear by it.


I was recently given a vial of Sustanon 250, but I'm not going to steer into the unnatural path until I hit some sort of plateau.

My First immediate question is directed towards the sus 250...

How old are you and how long have you consistently been training? And what is your goal you are working towards? Just trying to bulk up and stay in shape, and enjoy working out? Or are you trying to do a show/competition in the future?

like the others said 3% doesn't seem accurate because of the health factors that would cause, but either way it sounds like you are one of those that naturally has that dry low body fat look and can eat anything in sight. What are your protein sources and what are your carb sources? What do your meals typically consist of? **** What will you eat today for example? ****

yeah ive done my own version of 'feeder workouts' for years to go alongside my core workout regiment. What does your workout plan for a week look like?

I'd like to compete eventually. I know I'm far off where I need to be. Haven't used the sust yet, but eventually I'll add it. I'm looking to bulk because cutting is the easy part for me.

My meals go:
Wake up: 7-8 egg whites with a cup and a half or so of oatmeal.
About an hour later: chicken breast with white rice and a cracked egg over top
Two hours later: some other protein source with a carb and vegetable
Hour and half later: carbs carb carb
Gym time
Immediately after workout: Shake
After workout: protein source and carbs
Right before bed: whatever, as long as it has carbs

Throughout the day I drink BCAAs with a full scoop of Carbo gain and creatine mixed in. Every now and then I'll add a scoop and a half of Carbo gain.

My post workout shake has 140 total carbs and 60 grams of protein.

My carbs sources are usually just oatmeal, rice, and/or pasta

Usually I'll have class or school which pushes some of these times back. They aren't the most accurate but I try to get 6-7 meals in a day.

I've been consistently training for about two years. Before that, hit bullshit high school football workouts that didn't account for anything but strength.

[`NG]

You're going to have to buy custom shirts soon, hulk.

[Jstampz]

You're going to have to buy custom shirts soon, hulk.

The whole "no neck thing" is slowly occurring.

[ao_]

You are just another vicitim of successful marketing on behalf of the supplement companies. Instead of beef protein, try eating actual beef post workout, your anabolic window lasts much longer than the standard fifteen mintues that is engrained into your head by the protein shake companies. Also, being relatively young, you don't need all of those supplements... Your body is producing enough testosterone to make significant muscular gains. I put on about twenty pounds and shot up in weights by following the right routine while taking no supplements. Just look at everything as a science experiment with your body. And as Flux said, just eat baseball player sized meals... If you say you can cut weight easily and are young, I would be filling my face like a fat hog. I would kill for the same metabolism I had when I was 21.

[Jstampz]

You are just another vicitim of successful marketing on behalf of the supplement companies. Instead of beef protein, try eating actual beef post workout, your anabolic window lasts much longer than the standard fifteen mintues that is engrained into your head by the protein shake companies. Also, being relatively young, you don't need all of those supplements... Your body is producing enough testosterone to make significant muscular gains. I put on about twenty pounds and shot up in weights by following the right routine while taking no supplements. Just look at everything as a science experiment with your body. And as Flux said, just eat baseball player sized meals... If you say you can cut weight easily and are young, I would be filling my face like a fat hog. I would kill for the same metabolism I had when I was 21.

Well I always eat a meal right after my workout. It's just easier to add a shake because it's convenient. Shakes give me the ability to add a surplus of carbs that I wouldn't be able to get entirely from one meal. I'm a firm believe in getting a carb/protein in your system RIGHT after a workout.

[Beas]

I have 3% body fat and a metabolism that's ridiculously fast. It's hard to gain weight, so I constantly mix up workouts/workout routines and try and get anywhere from 5-8 meals a day.

Daily goals are usually somewhere around 200 grams of protein, and anywhere from 200-500 grams of carbs. Or as much as possible. I get busy with work and school so drinking the BCAAs helps a ton. I always make sure to eat right before bed too.

I've been doing some feeder workouts the past two nights, I'm going to see if it works. Rich Piana followers swear by it.


I was recently given a vial of Sustanon 250, but I'm not going to steer into the unnatural path until I hit some sort of plateau.

My First immediate question is directed towards the sus 250...

How old are you and how long have you consistently been training? And what is your goal you are working towards? Just trying to bulk up and stay in shape, and enjoy working out? Or are you trying to do a show/competition in the future?

like the others said 3% doesn't seem accurate because of the health factors that would cause, but either way it sounds like you are one of those that naturally has that dry low body fat look and can eat anything in sight. What are your protein sources and what are your carb sources? What do your meals typically consist of? **** What will you eat today for example? ****

yeah ive done my own version of 'feeder workouts' for years to go alongside my core workout regiment. What does your workout plan for a week look like?

I'd like to compete eventually. I know I'm far off where I need to be. Haven't used the sust yet, but eventually I'll add it. I'm looking to bulk because cutting is the easy part for me.

My meals go:
Wake up: 7-8 egg whites with a cup and a half or so of oatmeal.
About an hour later: chicken breast with white rice and a cracked egg over top
Two hours later: some other protein source with a carb and vegetable
Hour and half later: carbs carb carb
Gym time
Immediately after workout: Shake
After workout: protein source and carbs
Right before bed: whatever, as long as it has carbs

Throughout the day I drink BCAAs with a full scoop of Carbo gain and creatine mixed in. Every now and then I'll add a scoop and a half of Carbo gain.

My post workout shake has 140 total carbs and 60 grams of protein.

My carbs sources are usually just oatmeal, rice, and/or pasta

Usually I'll have class or school which pushes some of these times back. They aren't the most accurate but I try to get 6-7 meals in a day.

I've been consistently training for about two years. Before that, hit bullshit high school football workouts that didn't account for anything but strength.

no fish? I love eating fish. haha

Meals look good enough. Brown rice, whole wheat pasta, and sweet potatoes should be your best friends with meals.

2 years of consistently training is a good start, but stay away from the sus 250 in my opinion. If you are going to use it down the road, I would get a few more years of consistent training and eating. When/if you decide to cycle the sus, just make sure you do your research before and know what you're doing. If you know someone that truly knows his shit, then ask him lots of questions.

[Jstampz]

My First immediate question is directed towards the sus 250...

How old are you and how long have you consistently been training? And what is your goal you are working towards? Just trying to bulk up and stay in shape, and enjoy working out? Or are you trying to do a show/competition in the future?

like the others said 3% doesn't seem accurate because of the health factors that would cause, but either way it sounds like you are one of those that naturally has that dry low body fat look and can eat anything in sight. What are your protein sources and what are your carb sources? What do your meals typically consist of? **** What will you eat today for example? ****

yeah ive done my own version of 'feeder workouts' for years to go alongside my core workout regiment. What does your workout plan for a week look like?

I'd like to compete eventually. I know I'm far off where I need to be. Haven't used the sust yet, but eventually I'll add it. I'm looking to bulk because cutting is the easy part for me.

My meals go:
Wake up: 7-8 egg whites with a cup and a half or so of oatmeal.
About an hour later: chicken breast with white rice and a cracked egg over top
Two hours later: some other protein source with a carb and vegetable
Hour and half later: carbs carb carb
Gym time
Immediately after workout: Shake
After workout: protein source and carbs
Right before bed: whatever, as long as it has carbs

Throughout the day I drink BCAAs with a full scoop of Carbo gain and creatine mixed in. Every now and then I'll add a scoop and a half of Carbo gain.

My post workout shake has 140 total carbs and 60 grams of protein.

My carbs sources are usually just oatmeal, rice, and/or pasta

Usually I'll have class or school which pushes some of these times back. They aren't the most accurate but I try to get 6-7 meals in a day.

I've been consistently training for about two years. Before that, hit bullshit high school football workouts that didn't account for anything but strength.

no fish? I love eating fish. haha

Meals look good enough. Brown rice, whole wheat pasta, and sweet potatoes should be your best friends with meals.

2 years of consistently training is a good start, but stay away from the sus 250 in my opinion. If you are going to use it down the road, I would get a few more years of consistent training and eating. When/if you decide to cycle the sus, just make sure you do your research before and know what you're doing. If you know someone that truly knows his shit, then ask him lots of questions.

Thanks man. I need to add some fish. I use to eat it on a weekly basis.

I've got a guy who's real knowledgable about the cycle. Sustanon 250, D-Bol, and clomed for the first cycle. But I'll take the advice and continue to wait a few years before trying it.

[sevEN]

body builders that show up to a competition in their best condition rarely hit 3%, even when they are literally on stage and have timed their diet the previous 12-24 hours perfectly. and even if they are able to get that lean, they can only maintain that for a period of hours. there is absolutely 100% no way you have maintained anywhere close to 3% for any period of time. i highly doubt you have ever sniffed 3% at any given point in your training. People really don't realize that even as you enter the 7-8% range, you look incredibly lean and it might shock you how lean someone looks only to learn that they are around 6-7% for example.

I don't say this to be a dick, and it seems like you are doing everything properly and taking your training and diet seriously. But think about this... if a body builder very rarely reaches 3% while CUTTING for a contest, how can you MAINTAIN a 3% body fat for over 6 months while taking in massive amounts of carbs and weight gainer shakes? The body fat percentage test you are being given is horribly inaccurate.