Beef or Whey

[Jstampz]

1. With my current diet, I eat 7-8 egg whites every morning. Throughout the day I eat 3-4 whole eggs. (Yoke included). If I were to eat all whole eggs throughout the day. I'd be going through a dozen eggs A DAY. Egg whites are easier and more affordable to me. Thanks

2. Amino acids are compounds that make up proteins. Amino acids are crucial for protein synthesis. Amino acids are the building blocks of muscle. Thanks

3. From what I've read, you all focus little on bodybuilding and more on power lifting. Correct? Isn't that what most of your workouts consist of? I'm guessing your workout intels quite a bit of compound movements such as power cleans, hang cleans, box squats, and more power movements? Working on speed, and strength? My workouts consist of 1-2 compounds movements depending on what split I'm currently working through. I focus on the muscle and don't give two **** about strength. I had a strength coach throughout high school that built the "eat big, and lift bro" mentality. That mantality builds more strength than anything in my experience. I've had the most muscle gained from doing focused workouts, squeezing and contracting each muscle and feeling a huge pump. I pre-exhaust the muscle, then end my workouts with a compound movement to totally kill the muscle.Thanks

4. I stated previously my 3% body fat level could be wrong. So you continuesly telling me how outrageous it is to think my level is so low is ignorant to say the least. The machine read 3%, and that's what I went by. Thanks

5. I work twice as hard as the normal lifter to gain muscle. I have to. I pack my system full of mostly clean protein rich foods, and carbs. I'm no stickler to eating clean, but it makes me feel better throughout the day. Since focusing on bodybuilding rather than powerlifting I have gained 15-17 pounds (not sure how much is water weight), but the number on the scale is bigger, my muscles are bigger, and I'm more vascular than I've ever been. Thanks

6. The main reason to consume carbs post-workout is to replenish the muscle glycogen that you burned during your workout. As you train, your main fuel source is muscle glycogen. Glycogen is the storage form of glucose. It is composed of long strings of glucose molecules with numerous branches. The glucose break from the glycogen chain as needed in order to generate ATP, which transports chemical energy and is crucial for muscle contractions. The best way to replenish muscle glycogen stores after workouts is to consume high-glycemic (fast-digesting) carbs as soon as possible.

7. The main focus of this thread was to ask about beef protein. I'd heard some good things about it. Some guys had stomach issues with whey protein powder and found comfort drinking beef protein. My former strength coach said the amino acid profile is better and it's natural. I was simply wondering if some of you guys liked it or not. Thanks

8. I'm young and I have much to learn. But I don't take advice well from arrogant ass hats such as yourself. I may have incorrect understandings of certain concepts, but that in no way means I'm an idiot on the matter. Everyone's body acts, and reacts differently to lifting weights, and food/supplement consumption. If you're going to be an ass, I will not take your advice. I may be wrong in some areas, and I apologize. Sorry bro. Love you.

[kirk]

1. With my current diet, I eat 7-8 egg whites every morning. Throughout the day I eat 3-4 whole eggs. (Yoke included). If I were to eat all whole eggs throughout the day. I'd be going through a dozen eggs A DAY. Egg whites are easier and more affordable to me. Thanks

How are egg whites cheaper than eggs? A carton of eggs is like $2. Where do you live where egg whites are cheaper (from a $/calorie standpoint) than an egg that is less than $0.20?

2. Amino acids are compounds that make up proteins. Amino acids are crucial for protein synthesis. Amino acids are the building blocks of muscle. Thanks

Well at least you know what Google is.

3. From what I've read, you all focus little on bodybuilding and more on power lifting. Correct? Isn't that what most of your workouts consist of? I'm guessing your workout intels quite a bit of compound movements such as power cleans, hang cleans, box squats, and more power movements? Working on speed, and strength? My workouts consist of 1-2 compounds movements depending on what split I'm currently working through. I focus on the muscle and don't give two **** about strength. I had a strength coach throughout high school that built the "eat big, and lift bro" mentality. That mantality builds more strength than anything in my experience. I've had the most muscle gained from doing focused workouts, squeezing and contracting each muscle and feeling a huge pump. I pre-exhaust the muscle, then end my workouts with a compound movement to totally kill the muscle.Thanks

What the **** am I even reading...

No, I've never focused on power lifting. I don't even know what power lifting routines look like outside of low reps and crazy high volume/frequency. Regardless of your strength vs. bodybuilding, you should still make compound motions your priority. Muscle-specific workouts were CREATED specifically for people on steroids BECAUSE they extend their level/duration of protein synthesis. IF you are one of those people who has a day devoted to chest and you do it once/week, you are doing it wrong. Protein synthesis peaks and then returns to baseline in natural lifters in a 24-48 hour period. Thus, you want to stimulate your muscles, where you stimulate MORE through compound movements, and then do the same thing again within 1-2 days. Once protein synthesis is back to baseline, you should be back to lifting (this includes if you're going for muscle gain). The problem with doing intense volume in a given day and sacrificing frequency (i.e., doing each muscle group once/week), is that there is a MASSIVE diminishing return on gains for each lift you do. Meaning, the amount of stimulation you get on your fourth chest exercise is but a fraction of what you got on your first.

Mathematically this means that an exponentially reduced gain per lift in a given day is suboptimal. It makes MORE sense to do 4 lifts for your chest spread across 2 different days than doing all 4 lifts in a given day UNLESS you do steroids. This is the most very basic premise of protein synthesis, which is the mechanism behind muscle gain.

If you are killing each muscle group just once per week and not doing steroids, you are doing a suboptimal routine. It does not get any more basic than that if that is the case.

4. I stated previously my 3% body fat level could be wrong. So you continuesly telling me how outrageous it is to think my level is so low is ignorant to say the least. The machine read 3%, and that's what I went by. Thanks

Right, and it's ignorant that you believed it.

5. I work twice as hard as the normal lifter to gain muscle. I have to. I pack my system full of mostly clean protein rich foods, and carbs. I'm no stickler to eating clean, but it makes me feel better throughout the day. Since focusing on bodybuilding rather than powerlifting I have gained 15-17 pounds (not sure how much is water weight), but the number on the scale is bigger, my muscles are bigger, and I'm more vascular than I've ever been. Thanks

Cool story. It is also meaningless.

6. The main reason to consume carbs post-workout is to replenish the muscle glycogen that you burned during your workout. As you train, your main fuel source is muscle glycogen. Glycogen is the storage form of glucose. It is composed of long strings of glucose molecules with numerous branches. The glucose break from the glycogen chain as needed in order to generate ATP, which transports chemical energy and is crucial for muscle contractions. The best way to replenish muscle glycogen stores after workouts is to consume high-glycemic (fast-digesting) carbs as soon as possible.

Except glycogen depletion for non-cardio athletes is rare unless you do a low carb diet. And even IF you deplete glycogen there are still other physiological systems that would not results in immediate catabolism. Even long-distance cardio athletes struggle to go catabolic. I had to bike for over 2 hours on an empty stomach to get there (this being in 2010, so a while ago).

7. The main focus of this thread was to ask about beef protein. I'd heard some good things about it. Some guys had stomach issues with whey protein powder and found comfort drinking beef protein. My former strength coach said the amino acid profile is better and it's natural. I was simply wondering if some of you guys liked it or not. Thanks

"Amino profile is better"

Awesome. So you don't know anything about them.

8. I'm young and I have much to learn. But I don't take advice well from arrogant ass hats such as yourself. I may have incorrect understandings of certain concepts, but that in no way means I'm an idiot on the matter. Everyone's body acts, and reacts differently to lifting weights, and food/supplement consumption. If you're going to be an ass, I will not take your advice. Sorry bro. Love you

Being an ass doesn't nullify knowledge brah.

[Jstampz]

1. With my current diet, I eat 7-8 egg whites every morning. Throughout the day I eat 3-4 whole eggs. (Yoke included). If I were to eat all whole eggs throughout the day. I'd be going through a dozen eggs A DAY. Egg whites are easier and more affordable to me. Thanks

How are egg whites cheaper than eggs? A carton of eggs is like $2. Where do you live where egg whites are cheaper (from a $/calorie standpoint) than an egg that is less than $0.20?

2. Amino acids are compounds that make up proteins. Amino acids are crucial for protein synthesis. Amino acids are the building blocks of muscle. Thanks

Well at least you know what Google is.

3. From what I've read, you all focus little on bodybuilding and more on power lifting. Correct? Isn't that what most of your workouts consist of? I'm guessing your workout intels quite a bit of compound movements such as power cleans, hang cleans, box squats, and more power movements? Working on speed, and strength? My workouts consist of 1-2 compounds movements depending on what split I'm currently working through. I focus on the muscle and don't give two **** about strength. I had a strength coach throughout high school that built the "eat big, and lift bro" mentality. That mantality builds more strength than anything in my experience. I've had the most muscle gained from doing focused workouts, squeezing and contracting each muscle and feeling a huge pump. I pre-exhaust the muscle, then end my workouts with a compound movement to totally kill the muscle.Thanks

What the **** am I even reading...

No, I've never focused on power lifting. I don't even know what power lifting routines look like outside of low reps and crazy high volume/frequency. Regardless of your strength vs. bodybuilding, you should still make compound motions your priority. Muscle-specific workouts were CREATED specifically for people on steroids BECAUSE they extend their level/duration of protein synthesis. IF you are one of those people who has a day devoted to chest and you do it once/week, you are doing it wrong. Protein synthesis peaks and then returns to baseline in natural lifters in a 24-48 hour period. Thus, you want to stimulate your muscles, where you stimulate MORE through compound movements, and then do the same thing again within 1-2 days. Once protein synthesis is back to baseline, you should be back to lifting (this includes if you're going for muscle gain). The problem with doing intense volume in a given day and sacrificing frequency (i.e., doing each muscle group once/week), is that there is a MASSIVE diminishing return on gains for each lift you do. Meaning, the amount of stimulation you get on your fourth chest exercise is but a fraction of what you got on your first.

Mathematically this means that an exponentially reduced gain per lift in a given day is suboptimal. It makes MORE sense to do 4 lifts for your chest spread across 2 different days than doing all 4 lifts in a given day UNLESS you do steroids. This is the most very basic premise of protein synthesis, which is the mechanism behind muscle gain.

If you are killing each muscle group just once per week and not doing steroids, you are doing a suboptimal routine. It does not get any more basic than that if that is the case.

4. I stated previously my 3% body fat level could be wrong. So you continuesly telling me how outrageous it is to think my level is so low is ignorant to say the least. The machine read 3%, and that's what I went by. Thanks

Right, and it's ignorant that you believed it.

5. I work twice as hard as the normal lifter to gain muscle. I have to. I pack my system full of mostly clean protein rich foods, and carbs. I'm no stickler to eating clean, but it makes me feel better throughout the day. Since focusing on bodybuilding rather than powerlifting I have gained 15-17 pounds (not sure how much is water weight), but the number on the scale is bigger, my muscles are bigger, and I'm more vascular than I've ever been. Thanks

Cool story. It is also meaningless.

6. The main reason to consume carbs post-workout is to replenish the muscle glycogen that you burned during your workout. As you train, your main fuel source is muscle glycogen. Glycogen is the storage form of glucose. It is composed of long strings of glucose molecules with numerous branches. The glucose break from the glycogen chain as needed in order to generate ATP, which transports chemical energy and is crucial for muscle contractions. The best way to replenish muscle glycogen stores after workouts is to consume high-glycemic (fast-digesting) carbs as soon as possible.

Except glycogen depletion for non-cardio athletes is rare unless you do a low carb diet. And even IF you deplete glycogen there are still other physiological systems that would not results in immediate catabolism. Even long-distance cardio athletes struggle to go catabolic. I had to bike for over 2 hours on an empty stomach to get there (this being in 2010, so a while ago).

7. The main focus of this thread was to ask about beef protein. I'd heard some good things about it. Some guys had stomach issues with whey protein powder and found comfort drinking beef protein. My former strength coach said the amino acid profile is better and it's natural. I was simply wondering if some of you guys liked it or not. Thanks

"Amino profile is better"

Awesome. So you don't know anything about them.

8. I'm young and I have much to learn. But I don't take advice well from arrogant ass hats such as yourself. I may have incorrect understandings of certain concepts, but that in no way means I'm an idiot on the matter. Everyone's body acts, and reacts differently to lifting weights, and food/supplement consumption. If you're going to be an ass, I will not take your advice. Sorry bro. Love you

Being an ass doesn't nullify knowledge brah.

Where the **** do you get eggs for that **** cheap?

A dozen eggs in Collierville, Tennessee is roughly $2.50-$3.00. (High tax). So if I'm going through a dozen eggs a day. 7x3=21. Roughly, depending on how much the eggs are. It's cheaper to buy two large containers of egg whites. $8.


Google, and my high school biology teacher. Thanks sweet heart

Sunday: all chest, little compound movements
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: back day
Wednesday: shoulders and traps
Thursday: chest and triceps; I incorporate compound movements to hit the triceps as well
Friday: legs
Saturday: back and bicep day

This split changes, and I'm constantly changing to confuse the muscle. I'm not completely against compound movements, but I don't make my workouts focused on compound movements. I hit every muscle group twice, except shoulders and traps because my feeder workouts are shoulder movements.

I DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT BEEF PROTEIN ERGO MY **** POST ABOUT IT

[kirk]

Where the **** do you get eggs for that **** cheap?

A dozen eggs in Collierville, Tennessee is roughly $2.50-$3.00. (High tax). So if I'm going through a dozen eggs a day. 7x3=21. Roughly, depending on how much the eggs are. It's cheaper to buy two large containers of egg whites. $8.

I've never heard of a container of egg whites being cheaper than eggs at the price PER calorie. But egg white tastes awful so I haven't bought them in a while.

Google, and my high school biology teacher. Thanks sweet heart

Then you didn't learn anything because if you understood amino acids then you'd realize your whey vs. beef question is absurd.

Sunday: all chest, little compound movements
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: back day
Wednesday: shoulders and traps
Thursday: chest and triceps; I incorporate compound movements to hit the triceps as well
Friday: legs
Saturday: back and bicep day

This split changes, and I'm constantly changing to confuse the muscle. I'm not completely against compound movements, but I don't make my workouts focused on compound movements. I hit every muscle group twice, except shoulders and traps because my feeder workouts are shoulder movements.

Right, and so based on the most rudimentary physiology, your routine is suboptimal. Cue the "but it works for me!!111!!" statement.

I DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT BEEF PROTEIN ERGO MY **** POST ABOUT IT

I would just generalize to "I do not know much about protein."

[Jstampz]

You know what, you are a **** genius Alex Kirk. You must be THE SMARTEST person I've ever met. You must be some sort of performance scientist studying muscle development. Every single thing you've said, I will use in my everyday life. Thank you so much for blessing me with your almighty wisdom. You're almost as knowleable as Google. I owe you dude. I owe you big time.

[Jstampz]

Where the **** do you get eggs for that **** cheap?

A dozen eggs in Collierville, Tennessee is roughly $2.50-$3.00. (High tax). So if I'm going through a dozen eggs a day. 7x3=21. Roughly, depending on how much the eggs are. It's cheaper to buy two large containers of egg whites. $8.

I've never heard of a container of egg whites being cheaper than eggs at the price PER calorie. But egg white tastes awful so I haven't bought them in a while.

Google, and my high school biology teacher. Thanks sweet heart

Then you didn't learn anything because if you understood amino acids then you'd realize your whey vs. beef question is absurd.

Sunday: all chest, little compound movements
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: back day
Wednesday: shoulders and traps
Thursday: chest and triceps; I incorporate compound movements to hit the triceps as well
Friday: legs
Saturday: back and bicep day

This split changes, and I'm constantly changing to confuse the muscle. I'm not completely against compound movements, but I don't make my workouts focused on compound movements. I hit every muscle group twice, except shoulders and traps because my feeder workouts are shoulder movements.

Right, and so based on the most rudimentary physiology, your routine is suboptimal. Cue the "but it works for me!!111!!" statement.

I DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT BEEF PROTEIN ERGO MY **** POST ABOUT IT

I would just generalize to "I do not know much about protein."

Dude, it was a simple question if people liked Beef protein supplement over a Whey Protein supplement.

You've busted my balls, now let me recooperate with my eggs whites, and protein shake


Egg whites aren't cheaper, but at my consumption level, whole eggs are 5-7$ more.

[rymoz]

Why lift when it's all about the face?

[sevEN]

im going to cook me a plate of 24 egg whites and a tall glass of water w/ 5 scoops of whey while i watch alex rape everyone

[stile]

Good ol 1911. It never fails. How a simple post can turn into a flame war.

[Beas]

im going to cook me a plate of 24 egg whites and a tall glass of water w/ 5 scoops of whey while i watch alex rape everyone

yes, alex is saying a lot of things right...he just going about it wrong and being an ass for no reason. But there are some things alex is saying that he is wrong about.