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Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:52 am
by mg_
toxinatoR wrote:hahahah sean... why not just make a rate enforcer? ;p like we use to have.. they cant join the server unless their rates are legal.
Such a good plug-in. I remember those morons trying to join for matches and for 30 minutes they'd try to be telling a CAL admin the server was broken, not their bad rates. This is why I got tired of playing against them. Well, that and the cheating.

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:58 am
by Airnick15
After playing them last week I'm in ryan's camp as well.

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:46 am
by Jb_
toxinatoR wrote:hahahah sean... why not just make a rate enforcer? ;p like we use to have.. they cant join the server unless their rates are legal.
I dont really understand why this thread needs to go any further. Jesus himself has laid a plan down. GET TEH RATE ENFORCERS BACK ON THE SERVERS!

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:33 am
by cassinoroyale
ohh ryan... this is really annoying I know. Let me try to show you a few things first even before trying to enter in this discussion.

First of all, I'd really want to separate things... despite living on the same region (South America), each country is really different than each other. As far as SA teams are concerned on USA leagues, we only have Brazil and Argentina teams competing at the moment.

Right now you are probably thinking: "the hell with it, I don't need geography lessons and whatnot"

First off all, I always worked to be a frontman of my community (Brazil). If USA leagues management chooses to wipe out Argentinean teams from the league be sure that I won't raise my hand and say "hey, Brazi teams will leave if you kick Argentineans from the league". Of course not. They had their shot and didn't take it seriously.

Secondly, believe me that though they are our neighbors we are very different people. And as far as sportsmanlike attitudes are concerned most of the argentineans are a pain in the ass because like football they don't know how to lose. And in order to get a shot for win they can do anything, legit or not. Most of them simply can't stand on losing to whatever team they face in whatever competition they are in. Like I said before, most is different than all. Of course we have some good argentineans like makhen, pola and Super and friendly teams like Argento and Reines.Ei (who can lose by 1000 points spread and never goes bazooking, voicing, whatever). Other than these, its pretty much like I described.

To sum all up: we are different countries. As for now TPG have 4 brazilian teams (dW, Fake do pipi by, reLoad and fireyes). How many times you saw someone complaining about them? (for cheating/rating issues of course, some brazilians can't control their fingers especially if someone keep on voicing them but hey we are talking about h4x). If some of teams does something related to these matters then I will feel ashamed and I will personally enforce that the team will take whatever punishment the league admins decide for.

Moreover I will have a talk with Narc and propose a more severe punishment SA's who likes to rate, i.e. rating will grant you a 1 year suspension and having two or more raters get caught in your team will make TPG admins excludes not only the player but the team from the season.

Like I said in a earlier thread, I'd rather prefer being a legit monkey than an bankrupt rater boludo jejejejajaja... It's all true.

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:13 am
by ryanemo
haha sean screw you me and john had to go against **** superman at long, bullets would just bounce off of him with his rating. can't wait to play you in TPG and l0ry you up and down the map ;)

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:28 pm
by element
dread every match against south americans... getting hit 8 feet behind walls is no fun =[

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:28 pm
by hellfire
Fortunately ESL has a wonderful penalty point system that enforces every member to stay within the guidelines set by the administration. Unlike CAL back in the day, we used to suspend players for their actions. This system allows us to remove points based on the offense they acted upon.

Something simple as rateing can be a easy fix other then the penalty point based system, however I feel its important for you all to read and understand these rules prior to you acting on some degree.

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LINK LOCATED HERE - > http://www.nationalesl.com/us/dod/rules
2. Penalties

If a player or team disregards or violates one or more of the legal rules of the league, this can have various consequences depending on the severity of the offence. The ESL possesses an official catalogue of penalty points according to which points are given for each offence.

In addition to penalty points, players and teams may be barred (also known as frozen, locked and barraged) if they have **** a certain amount of penalty points:

After obtaining 4 penalty points: 1 week barrage
After obtaining 9 penalty points: 2 weeks barrage
After obtaining 10 penalty points: 1 month barrage

As a rule, the penalty points are deleted after a certain period of time. There are different clearance periods depending on the amount of points:

1-2 penalty points: 2 months
3-6 penalty points: 3 months
7 penalty points: 6 months
12 penalty points: 2 years (see cheating)

Insults result in the following penalties:

Written warning for the first offence
1 Penalty point + 1 week barrage for the second offence, or first serious offence
2 Penalty points + 2 weeks barrage for the third offence, or second serious offence
3 Penalty points + 3 weeks barrage for subsequent offences

The admins reserve the right to give additional penalties.
2.1. Scale of penalties
Forbidden action Punishment
Behavior
Insult Warning and up to 3 penalty points (comment ban) (see above)
Spam Warning and up to 3 penalty points (comment ban)
Unwanted content

Warning / penalty points / barrage / comment ban / legal steps
Multiaccounting
Multiaccount created 1-4 penalty points
Hacking accounts 2 years barrage
Cheating
Cheating 12 penalty points, 2 years barrage
Bypassing Aequitas 12 penalty points, 2 years barrage
Publishing cheating pages / programs 12 penalty points, 2 years barrage
Unsportsmanlike behavior
Kick players from the server 4 penalty points
Wrong settings

Server: penalty points
Client: penalty points
Other delusions 1-4 penalty points

Reject mandatory challenges
2-3 penalty points
Failure to appear to the match

Team: 3 penalty points
Spieler: 2 penalty points
Match canceled 4 penalty points
Abuse of bugs 1-4 penalty points
Missing matchmedia
Mandatory matchmedia 1-3 penalty points
Requested ****/matchmedia 1-3 penalty points
Requested matchmedia under strong suspicion of cheating 6 penalty points
Wrong/missing game accounts
Play with wrong game account

Not in use: 3 penalty points
Already in use by another user: 6 penalty points
Play without a game account registered on ESL 3 penalty points
Use of unauthorized players
New locked players 3 penalty points
Barred players 6 penalty points

Unregistered players 3 penalty points
Ringer/faker 6 penalty points
Delusion
Fake match 6 penalty points
Fake results 4 penalty points
Fake matchmedia 6 penalty points

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:58 pm
by Airnick15
What would we do without you?

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:19 pm
by toxinatoR
Are you allowed to talk to a prosecutor in order to shed some of the points?

Re: this is why we have problems

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:33 pm
by ceebz
i dont see how you can give people penalty points for having to use a ringer.. id rather see people use ringers then just FFW their way through the cup