Nineteen Eleven

Char wrote:

joeledmunds wrote:Soooooo... people thinking that there should be a rematch because this is kind of a sad way to see a solid matchup resolved, is illogical. That's a dumb thing to say. Most people who aren't on either of the involved teams aren't breaking down the point difference. We just think it sucks. Although I do think it's funny you really want to believe that Traize's rates DEFINITELY made that 90 point difference happen, and that him having a few more flag caps is proof of anything. You give us a great montage of Traize capturing last flags under a hail of ineffective bullets while he laughs maniacally, or get the **** out of here with poor arguments that, for all their appearances to this community, are just a rationale for being angry with DemoFreak on hand.

MVPz broke a rule, they can't handle the FF loss, they request a rematch. Their reasoning - "Traize didn't do anything but go negative and get dumped on". Last I checked, that doesn't **** matter. No one checked our scores when we rated and our shit got overturned. I was explaining how their excuses are bullshit. Traize clearly wasn't useless. He had top flag caps when he rated his balls off. It's in the rules. You rate, you lose. Not entirely difficult to understand, is it? TPG is corrupt. End of god damn discussion?

You got the FF win.. so how is TPG Corrupt? Also, from what I remember reading, Taylu_b is the one who suggested the rematch? I think he's on your team isn't he?

joeledmunds wrote: You give us a great montage of Traize capturing last flags under a hail of ineffective bullets while he laughs maniacally, or get the **** out of here with poor arguments that, for all their appearances to this community, are just a rationale for being angry with DemoFreak on hand.

This made me laugh out loud.

mogers wrote:

Char wrote:

joeledmunds wrote:Soooooo... people thinking that there should be a rematch because this is kind of a sad way to see a solid matchup resolved, is illogical. That's a dumb thing to say. Most people who aren't on either of the involved teams aren't breaking down the point difference. We just think it sucks. Although I do think it's funny you really want to believe that Traize's rates DEFINITELY made that 90 point difference happen, and that him having a few more flag caps is proof of anything. You give us a great montage of Traize capturing last flags under a hail of ineffective bullets while he laughs maniacally, or get the **** out of here with poor arguments that, for all their appearances to this community, are just a rationale for being angry with DemoFreak on hand.

MVPz broke a rule, they can't handle the FF loss, they request a rematch. Their reasoning - "Traize didn't do anything but go negative and get dumped on". Last I checked, that doesn't **** matter. No one checked our scores when we rated and our shit got overturned. I was explaining how their excuses are bullshit. Traize clearly wasn't useless. He had top flag caps when he rated his balls off. It's in the rules. You rate, you lose. Not entirely difficult to understand, is it? TPG is corrupt. End of god damn discussion?

You got the FF win.. so how is TPG Corrupt? Also, from what I remember reading, Taylu_b is the one who suggested the rematch? I think he's on your team isn't he?

This is where all the bullshit stemmed from. We were told by an admin to rematch. We weren't asked. It was presented to us as "Contact the other team, and rematch". Why? they rated. We won. Taylor was just trying to make amends, and sound nice. Then MVPz started cluttering the forums acting like complete and utter ****, so I see no reason to keep treating them with respect. Narc. Why didn't you take the FF loss? Why is your team coming into vent post game calling us ****, saying you'll lose respect for us if we don't let it slide? Make some sense homie.
I see a lot of "boohoo you're a moron", and not a lot of "Here is my reasoning for you being incorrect". butthurt team is butthurt.
edit : Also I didn't care in the slightest whether or not we played a rematch, but as soon as these nerds started saying "We won fair and square" and "Just take the loss" and shit, then I'm going to have to call you out on that. I don't see us sitting at 9-1 right now because people let our accidental rating player slide. No sir, I do not. Why would your team be an exception? That's the 1,000,000$ question that you people can't seem to **** answer. Why in the hell would anyone care what the score was, or if it was playoffs? Your team broke a rule, you lose. /end.

How does a different admin who isn't on our team and who doesn't take any outside influence all of a sudden mean that TPG is corrupt. It wasn't the decision of anyone on our team. I never understood this shit. Not every decision is going to be the same across the board. There are different **** and nuances in every decision and therefore different results for similar situations can and will occur. I used to get the same shit when I ran CAL and it didn't make sense then as much as it doesn't make sense now. Some people are just too **** stupid to understand basic management situations.

Schmiggs wrote:How does a different admin who isn't on our team and who doesn't take any outside influence all of a sudden mean that TPG is corrupt. It wasn't the decision of anyone on our team. I never understood this shit. Not every decision is going to be the same across the board. There are different **** and nuances in every decision and therefore different results for similar situations can and will occur. I used to get the same shit when I ran CAL and it didn't make sense then as much as it doesn't make sense now. Some people are just too **** stupid to understand basic management situations.

And some people are just too **** stupid to understand basic rules.

===Just curious... if this person was rating, why wasn't any action taken? If I recall someone on Mindflow was rating in an earlier match this season, and they got a loss. No rematch no nothing... but Narc said himself.."Rules are rules.. blah blah blah". Also TA and KS, didn't someone have illegal rates in the quarter finals? Nobody got a rematch then so why the rematch now if rules are rules? Someone was rating on the opposing team therefore that team should have 0 points.===

Corrupted. End of story.

^^^^^^

agreed

What are you talking about Char, we did take the ff loss. I told the tpg admin i was not going to handle this dispute. Then he decided to have us play a rematch. I had no control on that desicion. I then told him we were just going to take a ff loss since its the right choice considering the way tpg handled rating disputes. So that is the way it played out. As for my team going into your vent bitching about you pulling a rate dispute to get a win? Well who wouldnt. It is a gay way to win. I roll my eyes at every single rate dispute that comes to tpg. I think to dispute over it is pathetic, thats my personal feelings. You and your team have no shame in winning on a technicality. Kudos. You won. Personally I wouldnt have disputed any team over it. Thats just me and I know there are other teams that wouldnt either. I believe your team was not disputed by hd when your player had a 7500 rate. Just goes to show you that there are cool players and teams still left. You and your team, well dont fit in that list. I have zero respect for everyone on your team. But you were within your rights. But let me ask you this, if you ever got pulled over and the cop let you off on an warning, is that cop corrupt even though you blatantly broke the rules? No, he made a judgement call. Not sure if that was a good example but its an example of what we call judgement calls. Thats even in the rules.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

So I really dont know what else to say to you. I"f you argue with a jackass, you have to ask yourself who the jackass really is."

Char, the fact that you honestly think that Traize having a rate of 7500 dramatically impacted the match that much for your team to lose is enough to prove you don't know shit about the game or the situations that you yourself were involved in during your own match. Traize wasn't the one dominating anyone but maybe our second flag. He spent the entire match getting yelled at and I had to bail out the long team quite a few times. You guys lost. You would have lost still if Traize didn't have the 7500 rate. What would you be grasping at then when the old **** beat you? Austin admitted you guys didn't play your best match. That had nothing to do with Traize. It might have been caused by your guys being **** and thinking you could just switch weapons during the playoffs because you beat us earlier in the season by a good margin. Teams play better or worse on different maps. We just played better than you on Harrytown. In all of the years I have played this game and for all of the teams that I had run and played on, I would have never let a rating issue last throughout the match and if it did happen to get by, I wouldn't use it to get a cheap playoff win when my team was obviously beat fairly. And I am sorry, a 7500 rate, not even a bad update rate or cmd rate doesn't cause that much of a swing. You would have lost with or without the rate.

That's fine though. I'm good knowing that we won the match when we were such clear underdogs. Great game mindflow, it was awesome to play decent against austin and I really did have the most fun in a match I had had in a while. We probably won't have Pat and Ace back on mvpz and who knows the status of us going into next season, but I really think we underachieved this season. This match was a clue of the potential we could have reached if we actually put in the effort. It was a fun season and I wouldn't change it for anything.

Narc wrote:What are you talking about Char, we did take the ff loss. I told the tpg admin i was not going to handle this dispute. Then he decided to have us play a rematch. I had no control on that desicion. I then told him we were just going to take a ff loss since its the right choice considering the way tpg handled rating disputes. So that is the way it played out. As for my team going into your vent bitching about you pulling a rate dispute to get a win? Well who wouldnt. It is a gay way to win. I roll my eyes at every single rate dispute that comes to tpg. I think to dispute over it is pathetic, thats my personal feelings. You and your team have no shame in winning on a technicality. Kudos. You won. Personally I wouldnt have disputed any team over it. Thats just me and I know there are other teams that wouldnt either. I believe your team was not disputed by hd when your player had a 7500 rate. Just goes to show you that there are cool players and teams still left. You and your team, well dont fit in that list. I have zero respect for everyone on your team. But you were within your rights. But let me ask you this, if you ever got pulled over and the cop let you off on an warning, is that cop corrupt even though you blatantly broke the rules? No, he made a judgement call. Not sure if that was a good example but its an example of what we call judgement calls. Thats even in the rules.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

So I really dont know what else to say to you. I"f you argue with a jackass, you have to ask yourself who the jackass really is."

I don't see NFL/NBA teams feeling bad after winning by technicality. Feeling pretty good right now.
1080 are cool guys. yes. but also, we kind of stomped them. Mentioned it earlier. Also if they didn't let it go, we'd still be in playoffs.

Schmiggs wrote:Char, the fact that you honestly think that Traize having a rate of 7500 dramatically impacted the match that much for your team to lose is enough to prove you don't know shit about the game or the situations that you yourself were involved in during your own match. Traize wasn't the one dominating anyone but maybe our second flag. He spent the entire match getting yelled at and I had to bail out the long team quite a few times. You guys lost. You would have lost still if Traize didn't have the 7500 rate. What would you be grasping at then when the old **** beat you? Austin admitted you guys didn't play your best match. That had nothing to do with Traize. It might have been caused by your guys being **** and thinking you could just switch weapons during the playoffs because you beat us earlier in the season by a good margin. Teams play better or worse on different maps. We just played better than you on Harrytown. In all of the years I have played this game and for all of the teams that I had run and played on, I would have never let a rating issue last throughout the match and if it did happen to get by, I wouldn't use it to get a cheap playoff win when my team was obviously beat fairly. And I am sorry, a 7500 rate, not even a bad update rate or cmd rate doesn't cause that much of a swing. You would have lost with or without the rate.

That's fine though. I'm good knowing that we won the match when we were such clear underdogs. Great game mindflow, it was awesome to play decent against austin and I really did have the most fun in a match I had had in a while. We probably won't have Pat and Ace back on mvpz and who knows the status of us going into next season, but I really think we underachieved this season. This match was a clue of the potential we could have reached if we actually put in the effort. It was a fun season and I wouldn't change it for anything.

He fixed his rate second half, and you lost second half. I guess that we just happened to get MAGICALLY BETTER at a video game in the span of 5 minutes. Clearly we were outplayed. Let me ask you this. If rating isn't such a big deal, why is it punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me.
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