Nineteen Eleven

alex kirk wrote:[
If the rules are stupid, and the more LOGICAL choice is to do something that goes against those stupid rules, then it's justified. Simple.

I would never, ever dispute over rates if I lost by that much.

Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.

alex kirk wrote:

Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.

Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate ****.

And guess what? It's in the **** rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

Edit: Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. Guess this thread makes a little more sense now?
In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.

See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.

Char wrote:

alex kirk wrote:

Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.

Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate ****.

And guess what? It's in the **** rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.

See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.

The rules state what the **** happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the **** would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Char wrote:The rules state what the **** happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the **** would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

alex kirk wrote:

Char wrote:The rules state what the **** happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the **** would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

umad?

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

umad?

Just because your dumbass, biased opinion doesn't see how there are extraneous variables regarding this matter doesn't mean the rest of us "illogical" folk don't. As we pay attention to said variables, we acknowledge that the TPG admin authority being used to propose/accept a rematch IS justified AND in accordance with the rules.

Brb ALL instances of rating are the same. There are never other factors that differentiate one case from another. Rating is rating. Judgment shouldn't be used when approaching cases.

Where's your logic now?

alex kirk wrote:

Char wrote:The rules state what the **** happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the **** would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

umad?

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

umad?

Just because your dumbass, biased opinion doesn't see how there are extraneous variables regarding this matter doesn't mean the rest of us "illogical" folk don't. As we pay attention to said variables, we acknowledge that the TPG admin authority being used to propose/accept a rematch IS justified AND in accordance with the rules.

Brb ALL instances of rating are the same. There are never other factors that differentiate one case from another. Rating is rating. Judgment shouldn't be used when approaching cases.

Where's your logic now?

Char wrote:

alex kirk wrote:

Char wrote:The rules state what the **** happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the **** would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

umad?

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

umad?

Just because your dumbass, biased opinion doesn't see how there are extraneous variables regarding this matter doesn't mean the rest of us "illogical" folk don't. As we pay attention to said variables, we acknowledge that the TPG admin authority being used to propose/accept a rematch IS justified AND in accordance with the rules.

Brb ALL instances of rating are the same. There are never other factors that differentiate one case from another. Rating is rating. Judgment shouldn't be used when approaching cases.

Where's your logic now?

Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. No wonder we didn't let it slide? lolumad?

Char wrote:Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. No wonder we didn't let it slide? lolumad?

nugz` wrote:i just keep staring at them chucks.

nugz` wrote:actually that was alittle different then this. your team + the other team both had a player that was rating so he gave you both a ff + it was regular season.

alex kirk wrote:

Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.

Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate ****.

And guess what? It's in the **** rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.

See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.

I would say this is a great time to change the rules regarding rating. The fact that you can win by 100 points and have the match overturned for 7500 rate is crazy illogical.