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Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:51 am
by seanality
stile if you were my training partner I would never let you write down that many reps. I wouldn't give full credit for that pace.

Also stop dropping the bar.

Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:33 am
by scorch-
seanality wrote:stile if you were my training partner I would never let you write down that many reps. I wouldn't give full credit for that pace.

Also stop dropping the bar.
you're an idiot.

Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:04 pm
by stile
Weird Sean, I'm just going by this

"In other words, you don't lower the bar first and then lift the weight as you do with the squat and bench press. When you train with multiple reps you're beginning to develop reversal strength, which isn't needed with the deadlift.

These two reasons are enough to keep the deadlift training to singles. If you're using multiple reps with the deadlift, then stand up in between each rep and restart the lift. This way you'll be teaching the proper form and be developing the right kind of strength."
#7 http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_art ... cd02.hydra

To be fair maybe the amount of time it took me to reset was a little bit longer than it should have been, but since I'm only 1 month in I'd like to make sure my form is as perfect as it can be before each pull.

Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:14 pm
by scorch-
stile wrote:Weird Sean, I'm just going by this

"In other words, you don't lower the bar first and then lift the weight as you do with the squat and bench press. When you train with multiple reps you're beginning to develop reversal strength, which isn't needed with the deadlift.

These two reasons are enough to keep the deadlift training to singles. If you're using multiple reps with the deadlift, then stand up in between each rep and restart the lift. This way you'll be teaching the proper form and be developing the right kind of strength."
#7 http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_art ... cd02.hydra

To be fair maybe the amount of time it took me to reset was a little bit longer than it should have been, but since I'm only 1 month in I'd like to make sure my form is as perfect as it can be before each pull.
you're doing it right. sean is an idiot who clearly does not know what he's talking about.

Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:38 pm
by Rambizzle
seanality wrote:stile if you were my training partner I would never let you write down that many reps. I wouldn't give full credit for that pace.

Also stop dropping the bar.
You do realize that while the weight he was using was light, presumably due to this being a FORM CHECK video; that stop and go is actually a bit harder than touch and go? His form is pretty good. Back straight, good foot placement, and good hip drive.

Seriously, try stop and go with your normal working weight, taking about a 5-10 second pause between reps. Prepare you anus. I don't know about the bro-science stile threw around about standing up after each rep, but I guess its plausible. It's going to be a pain in the ass to do that if you're using straps, so I'd recommend leaving them in your purse, ****.

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Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:56 pm
by squatta_leader
You're doing it right. Sean is just proving what a clueless idiot he is.

For a beginner you look pretty good. Focus on controlling your hips throughout the entire movement. Both the squat and the deadlift are all about developing hip drive. For instance, keep your hips engaged (like you are sticking your butt as high in the air as you can), both as you are lowering the bar back down, but more importantly before you lift the bar up. If you keep your hips engaged, while at the same time keeping your chest up, it forces you to engage and drive with your hips throughout the movement. Also, pay attention to where you place the bar over your feet before every rep, as you want the bar to come up in a perfectly straight line.

"Chest up, not hips down".


Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:08 pm
by sevEN
i know where i'm going next time i need squat form advice! straight to 1911.org where everyone is an expert on the art of compound olympic lifts!!

Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:20 pm
by squatta_leader
sevEN wrote:i know where i'm going next time i need squat form advice! straight to 1911.org where [strike]everyone is an expert[/strike] 1 or 2 people are experts on the art of compound olympic lifts!!
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Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:03 pm
by stile
i actually go somewhere else for form checks. i thought it'd be fun to compare what people say.

Re: Dear Joey, Jules, and Ricky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:37 pm
by scorch-
This isn't exactly "expert" knowledge. This is super basic stuff that anyone lifting appreciable weight should know about the human body.