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Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:24 pm
by Airnick15
Can't we all get along and not cheat?

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:30 pm
by ryanemo
yeah josh i can see what you mean about certain spots, for me it was just little things that added up that ended up making me change my mind....i went into the demo 100% assuming he was cheating lol

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:32 pm
by hXc
Jb_ wrote:I will say it again. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. This whole oldschool vs the new school is getting silly. We arent all 30 taylor, im about to turn 26 in september so its not like im a whole hell of alot older then alot of you guys, I just started at a young age. Thats cool ryan I respect your opinion, however I just feel diffrent from what I saw. Is it full out blatent? no... but is it very fishy and some bullshit at times? yes...

once again, i'm not talking about you.. scorch is telling me how i was a child back when schmiggs was a ac admin.. i'm just saying that it isn't my fault that i was 10 years old when dod was released.. sorry i'm not 30 bro.

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:42 pm
by stile
You guys don't check random corners? You'd be surprised how many people hide in random spots. Stealth, I actually make a lot of vent calls during matches. ESP.

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:52 pm
by sevEN
lol i turned vitamin shoppe down for a much better job. and just cuz it turns into a rob cheating thread, as it should because you're a retard cheater, doesnt mean you need to make personal attacks. thank god you're not on the team anymore is all i have to say.

it's not by random chance that nobody likes your dumb ass btw.

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:57 pm
by sevEN
and also, it sounds more like he was discrediting your qualifications that you said made you a great detector of cheating, and also discrediting the AC team since he used the word "caught" and "blatantly cheating" when describing you, yet you have still been able to play in tpg. i think my reading comprehension is just fine.

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:00 pm
by sevEN
and thirdly, i have been apart of CAL-ac for CS years ago, and i can tell you that AC admins build cases over time. you don't need a "smoking gun" type of shot or totally unexplainable situation all the time rob. certain players are disputed time and time again, and there sometimes is never that smoking gun. but over time, an admin can build a case and eventually have enough evidence that will all add up to a ban, but not actually have that 100% blatant smoking gun. thats how CAL AC for Cs worked back in the day at least.

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:24 pm
by Rob
That's a terrible way for AC to operate. You judge the demo you're sent. You don't "build up a case" based on rumors and reputation over time. You get a demo, review it, and you clear or ban. Each dispute should be reviewed alone and independently. If you take a legit player's demos over a whole year you can piece together probably 50 instances of things that look fishy and call that a case. And I didn't say the "smoking gun" piece of evidence isn't the only requirement. I'm saying a case is built based on multiple occurrences in a demo of things that don't look legit, OR a case is built on something that is blatant and without question cheating, like the video Alex made of Dustin Young on rr2 a few weeks ago.

And regarding whether or not a bunch of people on a video game forum like me, I couldn't care less. But at least I'm honest. I don't hang out on vent with them acting all friendly only to repeatedly and publicly throw them under the bus at every given opportunity. You've not only done that to me on numerous occasions, but other people on the team as well.

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:28 pm
by k4b00m
I'm not surprised by this one bit, always happens to my team! ]=

Oh wells.

gg noobs.

Re: Poizoned Down.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:56 pm
by scorch-
hXc wrote:
Jb_ wrote:I will say it again. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. This whole oldschool vs the new school is getting silly. We arent all 30 taylor, im about to turn 26 in september so its not like im a whole hell of alot older then alot of you guys, I just started at a young age. Thats cool ryan I respect your opinion, however I just feel diffrent from what I saw. Is it full out blatent? no... but is it very fishy and some bullshit at times? yes...

once again, i'm not talking about you.. scorch is telling me how i was a child back when schmiggs was a ac admin.. i'm just saying that it isn't my fault that i was 10 years old when dod was released.. sorry i'm not 30 bro.
It's called being aware of your surroundings. And you're not. Hence, clueless.

Schmiggs wasn't an "AC admin," he ran the entire **** show for years. He has a lot of experience dealing with every type of person that played the game. You're accusing him of being biased because he thinks he's the shit and no new players could be better than him, when I don't think that's EVER been the case. I never got banned for cheating and he was head admin for awhile when I went from being a nobody in cal-o to being on a team of fake mexicans that like 50%+ of the community thought was a bunch of cheaters. 2/3 of our team would get disputed every match and no one got banned until they actually DID cheat like 5 months later when everyone knew who was on the team and thought they were good. It's funny how good players that get accused of cheating don't arouse suspicion in admins. They just play smart and hit good shots.

There are always going to be exceptions... but you just have to live with the idea that this guy cheated and got banned. You guys haven't revolutionized the game since I stopped playing. The "crazy" shit that gets you kills now doesn't work against good teams. There was a reason wall shots were so rare at a high level... it's because it's really **** stupid to do against good players/teams because it's easier to hit people when you can see them and shooting at a wall gives away your position and let's someone peek you with a much higher chance of killing you. It wasn't because we were all bad and never realized you could shoot people through walls if you spammed them.