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are the move ups already finalized? i just checked and noticed a team from the main finals wasn't moved to invite, but a newly created aimless team was.. is there a reason why? playing the same 5 teams every season can get old.. just a thought. main looks more fun than invite! playing a variety of teams is always good in my opinion. ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Re: main/invite
Shut up noob minus rep lololillol
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Re: main/invite
Tell me about it.
What are you still doing in main, mvpz?
What are you still doing in main, mvpz?
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Re: main/invite
two problems here mr. graf:
1) skill level between teams isn't balanced as main division clearly have invite players blended in mid level teams. unfortunatelly there are no intermediate division due to lack of teams (we tried to that last season but thanks to poeple bitching around, teams died)
2) people want to play but they're also dont want to be shitted. playing against better teams and get spanked isnt what average people want. I personally think that in a competitive game what matter most is playing against the best but, well, this is my opinion and the majority of people here thinks otherwise - they just want have fun.
about aimless situation, they aren't a new team. they were always been there (they've just not played last division but they played in season 25) and they have invite caliber players like hutch and neur0se (and other t2w players will join for sure). they're not a main level team.
1) skill level between teams isn't balanced as main division clearly have invite players blended in mid level teams. unfortunatelly there are no intermediate division due to lack of teams (we tried to that last season but thanks to poeple bitching around, teams died)
2) people want to play but they're also dont want to be shitted. playing against better teams and get spanked isnt what average people want. I personally think that in a competitive game what matter most is playing against the best but, well, this is my opinion and the majority of people here thinks otherwise - they just want have fun.
about aimless situation, they aren't a new team. they were always been there (they've just not played last division but they played in season 25) and they have invite caliber players like hutch and neur0se (and other t2w players will join for sure). they're not a main level team.
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I agree with taylor (and not because im on his team) yeah playing the same teams over and over again gets pretty old. Yeah! dod is old and what is there to really expect? However, I don't mean to be harsh, but I don't think main players play for fun if there is a 14 page thread about someone rating in a match, to me that sounds pretty serious. I think scrims and 12 mans are the "play for fun" aspect of the game, but when you sign up for a league expect to be competitive and by that means play to get better! Teams in main, I'm sure at first probably won't have fun at all, but at least there's more diversity of play, which in turn creates new things to learn from the higher tier players. I play dod to get better and try and win whatever competition i'm involved in. With all the shit talking this community does to each other , its hard for me to even believe that some of us play just for fun. My point in short is, main should be combined into invite because it has more of a chance for teams to get better, more diversity = more excitement, possibility of some upsets, and its a reason for teams to practice more because there is more competition which SHOULD make people want to play more! If you want this game to be competitive and a bit more alive , you should set a standard for people to try and reach, having a challenge is fun. I think this would make some people want to play more so they could get better and compete, more scrims and 12 mans. How often is it you see FULL teams looking to scrim? Its hardly ever, I would wonder if this would fix this. Look at the success of other games in the past , cs was much more alive, longer, because being the best meant something, practicing as a team and winning the division you were in was challenging yet fun. ESEA, a pug based system, is for the fun aspect of cs , and for the off team , more individual practice(MUCH like our 12 mans) I'm not saying we could revive dod completely with this, but for the time being it could be more fun. Of course this move would possibly move some main teams down into lower , not just shift them all to invite or w.e it would be called.
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Re: main/invite
yeah i agree with greetz and graf, i think there are definitely teams in main that should be moved up but i would say maybe 2, instead of combining the divisions. i mean that would basically be like reverting back to a couple of seasons ago where we just had upper and lower. worked fine then but i feel like theres a good amount of people coming back and forming teams.
and its not like theres not teams in main with players who have played against nearly everyone in invite. i know alot of them may claim to be "washed up" but i would still think itd be fun for them to play with everyone in invite. i know you guys said youre just wanting to play for fun at this point. cant you guys still have a good time in invite? if its a matter of winning or losing matches based on your division, i would much rather win a hard-fought/intense match each week than just having fun shitting on teams you should beat every week
and its not like theres not teams in main with players who have played against nearly everyone in invite. i know alot of them may claim to be "washed up" but i would still think itd be fun for them to play with everyone in invite. i know you guys said youre just wanting to play for fun at this point. cant you guys still have a good time in invite? if its a matter of winning or losing matches based on your division, i would much rather win a hard-fought/intense match each week than just having fun shitting on teams you should beat every week
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Re: main/invite
Radical idea here, but why not just combine the two and form teams via a draft? In addition to playing the same teams repeatedly, there is little to no parody in Invite, as each season the best teams are THUNDER and one other team, while the rest tend to take their turns getting shitstomped by the top teams and playing more competitive matches with the rest. Unfortunately, some people will only want to play with friends or not want to play with people they dislike.
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idk, i feel like the process of forming teams and getting to know your team over the course of a couple seasons (if you can keep them together) is what makes it fun. every season theres always teams that are changing and reforming to get the right people together. i think a draft would take away from that. and a draft would also focus more on players than on forming a team as a whole.Airnick15 wrote:Radical idea here, but why not just combine the two and form teams via a draft? In addition to playing the same teams repeatedly, there is little to no parody in Invite, as each season the best teams are THUNDER and one other team, while the rest tend to take their turns getting shitstomped by the top teams and playing more competitive matches with the rest. Unfortunately, some people will only want to play with friends or not want to play with people they dislike.
and i wouldnt say invite is always fight between 2 teams. its usually been about 3 lol, even when everything was much less active. this past season there were 4 with thunder, koalas, drugs and owned all up there
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Re: main/invite
Did anyone think owned or koalas could beat thunder though? At this point there isn't much that can really be done to make it particularly competitive, so we should just enjoy what we have.
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Re: main/invite
i didnt play last season so im not sure. but from the matches i watched of koalas and with their roster, they had a similar mix of players as iwa had when we beat thunder twice in one season. i didnt expect koalas to beat them but thought the match might be close. (if koalas had austin, invite in the bagAirnick15 wrote:Did anyone think owned or koalas could beat thunder though? At this point there isn't much that can really be done to make it particularly competitive, so we should just enjoy what we have.
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